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    Another Failed 'Farrakhan Test'



    Frequent readers of this column know that I'm not one to start trouble. But this is the political season; scratchy topics are part of daily reporting. So let's return to a figure prominent in last week's column: Nation of Islam minister Louis Farrakhan.
    You might recall that during the Feb. 26 Democratic debate in Cleveland, NBC's Washington bureau chief, Tim Russert, pressed Sen. Barack Obama on an endorsement he received from Farrakhan. Obama said he had previously denounced Farrakhan's anti-Semitic comments and had not sought the endorsement.
    Hillary Clinton weighed in, suggesting that Obama's denunciation of Farrakhan's endorsement wasn't enough.
    Clinton pointed out that when she ran for the Senate in 2000, she "rejected" unsolicited support received from an "anti-Semitic, anti-Israel" group.
    "And it looked as though I might pay a price for that," she said. "But I would not be associated with people who said such inflammatory and untrue charges against either Israel or Jewish people in our country."
    Clinton demanded that Obama do more than "denounce" Farrakhan's endorsement. Obama responded that he didn't see the difference between denouncing and rejecting but said: "If the word 'reject' Senator Clinton feels is stronger than the word 'denounce,' then I'm happy to concede the point, and I would reject and denounce."
    Thus we have the Farrakhan litmus test, a sort of oral examination often administered to black political candidates. It's one of many tests Obama can expect to face in the coming weeks.
    Whether Obama passed or failed the Farrakhan test might depend on where you stand on Obama's candidacy. But the exchange regarding the controversial Nation of Islam leader probably did Hillary Clinton some good, given Farrakhan's radioactivity in many parts of the country.
    Which raises the question: Where was Hillary Clinton when her husband, former president Bill Clinton, made nice with Louis Farrakhan?
    What? You didn't know?
    Oh, you're probably thinking back to the fall of 1995, when the Million Man March convened in Washington under Farrakhan's leadership. That's when then-President Clinton made it plain that he objected to Farrakhan as the leader of the gathering on the Mall.
    The day of the march, Clinton told a University of Texas audience that "one million are right to be standing up for personal responsibility, but a million men do not make right one man's message of malice and division."

    It was clear he was talking about Farrakhan.
    But that was then.
    Ten years later, miles away from Washington and the national press corps, perched comfortably in his Harlem office, Bill Clinton had a decidedly different take on Farrakhan.
    In a May 2005 interview with the black weekly newspaper the New York Amsterdam News, the former president said that he supported the efforts of Louis Farrakhan and the Revs. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson to organize a Million More March in the nation's capital that fall.

    During his presidency Clinton made a distinction between Farrakhan and the marchers, but Clinton the New Yorker commended the Nation of Islam leader and the two black preachers for coming together to focus the country's attention on problems confronting African Americans.
    "Jesse [Jackson], and Mr. [Louis] Farrakhan and Rev. [Al] Sharpton probably have internal domestic political differences," Clinton is quoted as saying, "but they've agreed on this, and I think it's a good thing."
    Clinton said: "I like the idea of a march, but I think it would also be good at the march for them to say, 'We want to call your attention to this problem, and here's something else you can do. And that it's fine to be concerned about [homeland] security, but we also have to keep trying to make America strong and better here at home."
    Post-White House Clinton found no fault with Farrakhan's leadership. There was no mention of Farrakhan's "malice and division" during the interview.

    There was also no mention of a Farrakhan speech given that year, on Feb. 26, in which he reportedly told a Chicago audience: "Listen, Jewish people don't have no hands that are free of the blood of us [blacks]. They owned slave ships. They bought us and sold us. They raped and robbed us."
    No matter. Bill Clinton, sitting with the Amsterdam News and enjoying his first full day in the office since his second operation, was good to go with Farrakhan's leadership of the Million More March -- a fact he was willing to share with . . . a black audience.
    And, pray tell, what was Hillary Clinton doing then?
    She was, as she is now, a U.S. senator from New York.
    Did Hillary get on Bill's case, too?
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    In a May 2005 interview with the black weekly newspaper the New York Amsterdam News, the former president said that he supported the efforts of Louis Farrakhan and the Revs. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson to organize a Million More March in the nation's capital that fall.
    I wonder if Hillary is going to force Bill to denounce those comments the way she forced Obama to denounce Farrakhan's endorsement? But, then again, I don't know why Farrakhan even endorsed Obama to begin with? Like anybody needs, or wants, his backing.

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    The 1995 march was sponsered by Farrakhan alone.

    The 2005 march was sponsered by a broad coalition of black leaders, including Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Coretta Scott King, Andrew Young, Tavis Smiley, etc.

    Huge difference. Of course the opinion piece is not written with the whole truth, but I don't think truth is what the writer had in mind.
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    ^^The fact remains that Bill Clinton stated that he supported Louis Farrakhan. Which makes Hillary's insistence that Obama denounce Farrakhan's endorsement laughable. Bill could have mentioned all of the other people involved without making it a point to mention Farrakhan, especially after he went out of his way to criticize him during the Million Man March.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingcap72 View Post
    ^^The fact remains that Bill Clinton stated that he supported Louis Farrakhan. Which makes Hillary's insistence that Obama denounce Farrakhan's endorsement laughable. Bill could have mentioned all of the other people involved without making it a point to mention Farrakhan, especially after he went out of his way to criticize him during the Million Man March.
    He did not state he supports Farrakhan. The quote is:

    "Jesse [Jackson], and Mr. [Louis] Farrakhan and Rev. [Al] Sharpton probably have internal domestic political differences," Clinton is quoted as saying, "but they've agreed on this, and I think it's a good thing."
    Clinton said: "I like the idea of a march, but I think it would also be good at the march for them to say, 'We want to call your attention to this problem, and here's something else you can do. And that it's fine to be concerned about [homeland] security, but we also have to keep trying to make America strong and better here at home."

    No where in this does he "support" Farrakhan or give evidence of "friendship".

    This is just a journo's OP-ED piece, with the facts distorted to support his opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by witchcurlgirl View Post
    He did not state he supports Farrakhan. The quote is:

    "Jesse [Jackson], and Mr. [Louis] Farrakhan and Rev. [Al] Sharpton probably have internal domestic political differences," Clinton is quoted as saying, "but they've agreed on this, and I think it's a good thing."
    Clinton said: "I like the idea of a march, but I think it would also be good at the march for them to say, 'We want to call your attention to this problem, and here's something else you can do. And that it's fine to be concerned about [homeland] security, but we also have to keep trying to make America strong and better here at home."

    No where in this does he "support" Farrakhan or give evidence of "friendship".

    This is just a journo's OP-ED piece, with the facts distorted to support his opinion.
    The fact that he threw Farrakhan's name in with Jackson and Sharpton and said that he thinks it's a 'good thing' that they agree on something sounds like he's supporting all three men's efforts. And it directly contradicts his previous condemnation of him. You can't condemn somebody, and then turn around and say that you think them working with other people is a 'good thing,' especially when one of those other people happens to be the same Reverand that 'counseled' you during Monica-Gate by bringing his pregnant mistress along.

    But it raises the question of how he can commend Farrakhan, but Hillary insists that Obama denounce Farrakhan's endorsement, even though Obama never even went out and sought it? Shouldn't Bill have still denounced Farrakhan, despite the circumstances?

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