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    Default Bill Clinton and his affairs may be a major factor for Hillary Clinton in November

    Imagine the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy running video of Bill Clinton lying about his affair with Monica Lewinsky -- the impact on Hillary Clinton's campaign will be devastating!


    I wish I could forget about Monica Lewinsky, the stained blue dress, the cigars, and BJs in the White House.
    By and large, I was pretty happy with the Clinton Administration. After decades of mental abuse at the hands of Reagan and Bush Sr., it was a relief to have a president that I agreed with on most policy issues. Then there was the Hillary Factor -- for me, obviously, another plus.
    Then I read today the story of Genarlow Wilson, a young man serving 10 years in prison for having oral sex with a girl when they were teenagers.
    According to the AP story, what Wilson did was against Georgia law. They have since changed the law, but at the time he committed the nasty deed, Georgia said it was a felony for teens to have consensual sex.
    Now they want to release Wilson, but D.A. David McDade has released a video of Wilson having oral sex with a 15 year-old and intercourse with another teen at a New Year's Eve party. Some are accusing McDade of distributing child pornography because the participants are underaged.
    I am writing about Wilson not just because his case is troubling in its own right; I am bringing this up because it makes me think of Bill Clinton.
    Consider this: Georgia sentenced a teen to 10 years in prison for a sexual act that Bill Clinton also committed in the White House. Sure, Monica was not a minor and was a very willing participant. But that's besides the point. What's relevant during this presidential season is that other voters will make a similar connection to Bill Clinton every time they read a story like the one about Wilson. And that's not good news for Hillary.
    Like many with my political beliefs, I have tried to forget about all this. "Bad judgment" is how I have excused Bill Clinton's behavior. Pardoning him that way is easy when you look at his successor, who has shown such bad judgment on so many issues of far greater consequence.
    Still, the images of Bill Clinton's disgraceful behavior in the White House just won't go away.
    The most famous quotation from Bill Clinton's presidency won't be about health care, or Bosnia, or Iraq, or the economy. It will be the lie he told a national audience on January 28, 1998, when he said: "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky."

    The Lewinsky scandal is a political-sex scandal emerging from a sexual relationship between United States President Bill Clinton and a then 22-year-old White House intern, Monica Lewinsky. The news of this extra-marital affair and the resulting investigation eventually led to the impeachment of President Clinton in 1998 by the U.S. House of Representatives and his subsequent acquittal on all charges (of perjury and obstruction of justice) in a 21-day Senate trial.
    In 1995, Monica Lewinsky, a graduate of Lewis & Clark College, was hired to work as an intern at the White House during Clinton's first term. The two began a sexual relationship.
    As Lewinsky's relationship with Clinton became more distant and after she had left the White House to work at the Pentagon, Lewinsky confided details of her feelings and Clinton's behavior to her friend and Defense Department co-worker Linda Tripp, who secretly recorded their telephone conversations. When Tripp discovered in January 1998 that Lewinsky had signed an affidavit in the Paula Jones case denying a relationship with Clinton, she delivered the tapes to Kenneth Starr, the independent counsel who was investigating Clinton on various other matters, including the Whitewater scandal, Filegate, and Travelgate.
    Paula Corbin Jones is a former Arkansas state employee who sued President Bill Clinton for sexual harassment and eschewal. Eventually, the court dismissed the lawsuit, before trial, on the grounds that Jones failed to demonstrate any damages. However, while the dismissal was on appeal, Clinton entered into an out-of-court settlement by agreeing to pay Jones $850,000.
    The impeachment trial of President Clinton on perjury and obstruction of justice charges was based on statements he made during the depositions for the Paula Jones lawsuit. The specific statements were about the nature of his relationship with White House intern Monica Lewinsky, with whom he denied having a sexual relationship.

    Gennifer Flowers is a woman who had a relationship with former U.S. President Bill Clinton. She attended the University of Arkansas.
    She came forward during Bill Clinton's 1992 Presidential election campaign press conference Hillary Clinton, for the first time, made the media rounds to rebut sexual allegations against her husband. When asked why Clinton and Flowers called each other "honey" in the tapes, Mrs. Clinton explained that this was how people talked in Arkansas. At least two Arkansas state police officers who had formerly guarded Bill Clinton when he was Governor backed up Flowers' story. Clinton also apologized to Mario Cuomo for remarks he made about him on the tapes. alleging that she had had a twelve-year relationship with him. When Bill Clinton denied having relationship with Flowers, she held a in which she played tape recordings she claimed were of secretly recorded intimate phone calls with Bill Clinton.
    In his autobiography My Life, Clinton acknowledged testifying under oath that he had not had sexual relations with Flowers while he was with Hillary. It was only on one occasion before Hillary and Bill were together. When Flowers learned of it, she went public again to tell her side.
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    Gee I wonder if it will a problem for Obama too since according to the National Enquirer he has had fights with Michelle about his "other" women. Who will come forward with a semen stain from Obama???

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    So the writer of the article thinks of Clinton and Monica whenever the subject of blowjobs come up? Now? All these years later? WTF?

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    I like the unbiased slant of the article trying to link Bill Clinton to a man charged with having sex with a minor.
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    Someone should call up Juanita Broderick and ask her if the ice worked.

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    Of course, Monica-Gate is going to bite the Clintons in the ass. 1) Because Hillary has Bill front-and-center in her campaign, and she likes to refer back to the Clinton presidency, and 2) she keeps talking about how she had to 'overcome' the whole sex scandal. So, if she's going to try and use the sex-scandal to her benefit, then nobody should be shocked that the Republicans are going to try and use it against her since it led to Bill's impeachment.

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    They can use it. I don't see that it hurts her. They will use this real estate deal against Obama and it is more recent. We all know it will get dirty, no matter who gets the nomination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sluce View Post
    They can use it. I don't see that it hurts her.
    It may even help her.

    He cheated on her. She is the wronged party. America loves a victim. Oprah has built an empire on the soccer mom/victim/now get empowered girl! mentality. Our bestsellers are always some sentimental crap about how someone overcame a difficult childhood/abusive marriage/ sexual abuse to triumph against all odds.
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    ^^^ Guess I'll never have a best seller. I've had a pretty easy life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sluce View Post
    Gee I wonder if it will a problem for Obama too since according to the National Enquirer he has had fights with Michelle about his "other" women. Who will come forward with a semen stain from Obama???
    The key word in that sentence is the National Enquirer..and trust if he did have an affair, there would be NO STAIN!! He would have been smart enough to make the bitch swallow!! And there aren't any vagina stained half smoked Cubans, either!
    It's not like Bill had one affair and she stayed...he had several!!
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    Michelle Obama: "If you can't run your own house, then you can't run the White House."

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSDiva View Post
    The key word in that sentence is the National Enquirer..and trust if he did have an affair, there would be NO STAIN!! He would have been smart enough to make the bitch swallow!! And there aren't any vagina stained half smoked Cubans, either!
    It's not like Bill had one affair and she stayed...he had several!!
    LOL - thanks for the laugh SSDiva. I hate the visual but it did strike me as funny! I wonder if all politicians now make their lovers swallow to hide the evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sluce View Post
    They can use it. I don't see that it hurts her. They will use this real estate deal against Obama and it is more recent. We all know it will get dirty, no matter who gets the nomination.
    Monica-Gate hurts Hillary because it resulted in Bill getting impeached. And since Hillary keeps trying to tie herself to the good parts of Bill's presidency, the Republicans are going to use that to say that she can be tied to the negative parts of Bill's presidency, too. And since Hillary's camp already tried to compare Obama to Ken Starr she's already paving the way for the Republicans to use Monica-Gate against her.

    And you're right, the Republicans will use Obama's real estate deal against him, too. But since this is a presidential race which is going to have more impact? Obama's land deal or a presidential impeachment?

    Quote Originally Posted by witchcurlgirl View Post
    It may even help her.

    He cheated on her. She is the wronged party. America loves a victim. Oprah has built an empire on the soccer mom/victim/now get empowered girl! mentality. Our bestsellers are always some sentimental crap about how someone overcame a difficult childhood/abusive marriage/ sexual abuse to triumph against all odds.
    Yeah, except Hillary can't play the victim since she CHOSE to stay with Bill, who had a long history of cheating on her prior to Monica, and is now pimping him out to pump up her own political career. You can't play the victim or consider yourself empowered when you're actually getting something out of the deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingcap72 View Post
    Monica-Gate hurts Hillary because it resulted in Bill getting impeached. And since Hillary keeps trying to tie herself to the good parts of Bill's presidency, the Republicans are going to use that to say that she can be tied to the negative parts of Bill's presidency, too. And since Hillary's camp already tried to compare Obama to Ken Starr she's already paving the way for the Republicans to use Monica-Gate against her.

    And you're right, the Republicans will use Obama's land deal against him, too. But since this is a presidential race which is going to have more impact? Obama's land deal or a presidential impeachment?



    Yeah, except Hillary can't play the victim since she CHOSE to stay with Bill, and is now pimping him out to pump up her own political career. You can't play the victim or consider yourself empowered when you're actually getting something out of the deal.
    She doesn't have to play the victim. My point was that America eats that sort of shit up. It's the current opiate of the masses
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