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    Default Hillary Clinton says 'I have felt the presence of the Holy Spirit'

    In July of last year, Hillary Clinton gave an interview to New York Times reporter Michael Luo about her faith. It's a fairly in depth interview.
    Well, for your listening pleasure, The Brody File found the actual audio from the interview and it's really interesting. Reading the transcription of the interview is one thing, but hearing Hillary Clinton talk about her faith is very different. Listen here. You can read the transcription here.
    At the time, the article got significant play but some of the quotes from the whole interview never got used in the article. Here are some key quotes that I thought you might be interested to look at:
    Hillary Clinton: I believe in the father, son, and Holy Spirit, and I have felt the presence of the Holy Spirit on many occasions in my years on this earth.
    Reporter: Can I ask you theologically, do you believe that the resurrection of Jesus actually happened, that it actually historically did happen?
    Senator Clinton: Yes, I do.
    Reporter: And, do you believe on the salvation issue -- and this is controversial too -- that belief in Christ is needed for going to heaven?
    Senator Clinton: That one I'm a little more open to. I think that it is, as we understand our relationship to God as Christians, it is how we see our way forward, and it is the way. But, ever since I was a little girl, I've asked every Sunday school teacher I've ever had, I asked every theologian I've ever talked with, whether that meant that there was no salvation, there was no heaven for people who did not accept Christ. And, you're well aware that there are a lot of answers to that. There are people who are totally rooted in the fact that, no, that's why there are missionaries, that's why you have to try to convert. And, then there are a lot of other people who are deeply faithful and deeply Christ-centered who say, that's how we understand it and who are we to read God's mind about such a weighty decision as that.
    Reporter: And your attitude toward the Bible about how literally people should take it.
    Senator Clinton: I think the whole Bible is real. The whole Bible gives you a glimpse of God and God's desire for a personal relationship, but we can't possibly understand every way God is communicating with us. I've always felt that people who try to shoehorn in their cultural and social understandings of the time into the Bible might be actually missing the larger point that we're supposed to take from the Bible.
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    Interesting. Who knew.
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    but we can't possibly understand every way God is communicating with us
    So Hilly can take whatever she wants from the Bible and discard the parts she doesn't like?

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    I'm still trying to figure out why a politician's faith or religion has any meaning in their competency to be president? Whether it's Hillary, Obama, McCain, etc. Religion and politics don't mix.

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    No they don't, but there are so many people out there who believe the exact opposite. The religion factor is a deal breaker.

    About the Bible, I think I might agree with her. I'm a "big picture" kind of gal & have no interest in breaking down the Bible for micro-analyzing. If that's even a word.
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    Sure she did. Whatever it takes to get elected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobelia View Post
    No they don't, but there are so many people out there who believe the exact opposite. The religion factor is a deal breaker.

    About the Bible, I think I might agree with her. I'm a "big picture" kind of gal & have no interest in breaking down the Bible for micro-analyzing. If that's even a word.
    Oh, I know there are a lot of people who tie religion and politics together. But my problem with that is that we accuse the Arab nations of blurring the line between religion and politics, but we do the same thing in this country.

    As for the Bible, I believe in it, to a degree, and agree with Hillary, to an extent. But the thing that people forget with the Bible is that it wasn't written by God, but by men and the text has been altered various times over the centuries just to justify certain religious or political beliefs.

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    Anybody who injects religion into politics should be locked in an asylum.

    Same goes for any voter who needs it as well.

    Politics + religion = theocracy. Fuck off.
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    ^^Lots of crazies in America then. I agree - I want to see separation of church and state in all aspects of the American political process actually put into practice. Thomas Jefferson and those other cool dead dudes must be turning in their graves over how badly things have devolved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ingi View Post
    So Hilly can take whatever she wants from the Bible and discard the parts she doesn't like? [/i]

    As do most rational people.

    Very few live their lives according to the literal word of the bible.

    Been to any good stonings lately?
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    I don't believe her...she doesn't seem like the shouting type!![YOUTUBE]Qoh7Y8DDV4c[/YOUTUBE]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok View Post
    Anybody who injects religion into politics should be locked in an asylum.

    Same goes for any voter who needs it as well.

    Politics + religion = theocracy. Fuck off.
    Okaaaayyy then... we gonna need a LOT of shit for this huge-ass asylum we're gonna have to build...
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    not if you build it in the ocean.

    and by build, i mean just throw them into.
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    What if they float?
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    not likely with all those holes in them.
    I am from the American CIA and I have a radio in my head. I am going to kill you.

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