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    Dennis Prager: The most frequently asked question I receive from
    non-Jews about Jews is, why are Jews so liberal?


    The question is entirely legitimate since Jews (outside of Israel) are
    indeed overwhelmingly liberal and disproportionately left of liberal as

    well. For example, other than blacks, no American group votes so
    lopsidedly for the Democratic Party. And the question is further
    sharpened given that traditional Jewish values are not leftist. That is

    why the more religiously involved the Jew, the less likely he is to be
    on the Left. The old saw, "There are two types of Jews those who
    believe Judaism is social justice and those who know Hebrew," contains
    more than a kernel of truth.


    In no order of importance, here are six reasons:


    1. Judaism is indeed preoccupied with social justice (as well as with
    holiness and personal morality), and many Jews believe that the only
    way
    to achieve a just society is through leftist policies.


    2. More than any other major religion, Judaism has always been
    preoccupied with this world. The (secular) Encyclopedia Judaica begins
    its entry on "Afterlife" by noting that "Judaism has always affirmed
    belief in an afterlife." But the preoccupation of Judaism has been
    making this world a better place. That is why the Torah (the Five Books

    of Moses) is largely silent about the afterlife; and it is preoccupied
    with rejecting ancient Egyptian values. That value system was centered
    on the afterlife its bible was the Book of the Dead, and its
    greatest
    monuments, the pyramids, were tombs.


    3. Most Jews are frightened by anything that connotes right wing
    such
    as the words "right-wing" and "conservative." Especially since the
    Holocaust, they think that threats to their security emanate from the
    Right only. (It is pointless to argue that Nazism stood for National
    Socialism and therefore was really a leftist ideology. Whether that is
    theoretically accurate doesn't matter; nearly everyone regards the
    Nazis
    as far Right, and, therefore, Jews fear the Right.) The fact that the
    Jews' best friends today are conservatives and the fact that the Left
    is
    the home of most of the Jews' enemies outside of the Muslim world have
    made little impact on Jews' psyches.


    4. Liberal Jews fear most religion. They identify religion
    especially
    fundamentalist religion and especially Christianity with
    anti-Semitism. Jews are taught from birth about the horrors of the
    Holocaust, and of nearly 2,000 years of European, meaning Christian,
    anti-Semitism. They therefore tend to fear Christianity and believe
    that
    secularism guarantees their physical security.


    5. Despite their secularism, Jews may be the most religious ethnic
    group
    in the world. The problem is that their religion is rarely Judaism;
    rather it is every "ism" of the Left. These include liberalism,
    socialism, feminism, Marxism and environmentalism. Jews involved in
    these movements believe in them with the same ideological fervor and
    same suspension of critical reason with which many religious people
    believe in their religion. It is therefore usually as hard to shake a
    liberal Jew's belief in the Left and in the Democratic Party as it is
    to
    shake an evangelical Christian's belief in Christianity. The big
    difference, however, is that the Christian believer acknowledges his
    Christianity is a belief, whereas the believer in liberalism views his
    belief as entirely the product of rational inquiry.


    The Jews' religious fervor emanates from the origins of the Jewish
    people as a religious people elected by G-d to help guide humanity to a

    better future. Of course, the original intent was to bring humanity to
    ethical monotheism, G-d-based universal moral standards, not to secular

    liberalism or to feminism or to socialism. Leftist Jews have simply
    secularized their religious calling.


    6. Liberal Jews fear nationalism. The birth of nationalism in Europe
    planted the secular seeds of the Holocaust (religious seeds had been
    planted by some early and medieval Church teachings and reinforced by
    Martin Luther). European nationalists welcomed all national identities
    except the Jews'. That is a major reason so many Jews identify
    primarily
    as "world citizens"; they have contempt for nationalism and believe
    that
    strong national identities, even in America, will exclude them.


    Just as liberal Jews fear a resurgent Christianity despite the fact
    that
    contemporary Christians are the Jews' best friends, leftist Jews fear
    American nationalism despite the fact that Americans who believe in
    American exceptionalism are far more pro-Jewish and pro-Israel than
    leftist Americans. But most leftist Jews so abhor nationalism, they
    don't even like the Jews' nationalism (Zionism).


    If you believe that leftist ideas and policies are good for America and

    for the world, then you are particularly pleased to know how deeply
    Jews
    with their moral passion, intellectual energies and abilities, and
    financial clout are involved with the Left. If, on the other hand,
    you
    believe that the Left is morally confused and largely a destructive
    force in America and the world, then the Jews' disproportionate
    involvement on the Left is nothing less than a tragedy for the
    world
    and especially for the Jews.

    http://www.townhall.com/columnists/D...e_jews_liberal

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    Yeah, like Republicans and the Right are so MORAL, and so ETHICAL.

    And off the top of my head, the reason Jews might be more liberal is because they tend to have better educations - i.e., learned CRITICAL THINKING - as do Catholics, who are often known to be liberal as well, except for issues surrounding abortion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mira View Post
    the reason Jews might be more liberal is because they tend to have better educations - i.e., learned CRITICAL THINKING
    Agree. Study, analysis, comment, debate, etc form the basis of the Jewish approach to religious and secular education and culture. So they can spot the bullshit from a mile away.
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    how cute, a "FEAR THE JEW" article that ties them together with THE EVIL LIBERALS

    i think this is bordering on hate literature, maybe it's just me
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    ^well, i got the article from my uncle who IS Jewish, so I don't know.

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    Your uncle is a self loathing jew
    I am from the American CIA and I have a radio in my head. I am going to kill you.

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    ^I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok View Post
    Your uncle is a self loathing jew
    My immediate family leaned republican growing up.

    And some may had been more independent, ie, Libertarian.
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    So he's lightening up then?! Libertarians are about as far right as one can get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A*O View Post
    Agree. Study, analysis, comment, debate, etc form the basis of the Jewish approach to religious and secular education and culture. So they can spot the bullshit from a mile away.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mira View Post
    Yeah, like Republicans and the Right are so MORAL, and so ETHICAL.

    And off the top of my head, the reason Jews might be more liberal is because they tend to have better educations - i.e., learned CRITICAL THINKING - as do Catholics, who are often known to be liberal as well, except for issues surrounding abortion.
    yes and yes.
    the article is quite insiduous as well, and the author has a very narrow view of the left, lumping it all together into one school of thought. also, while national socialism did contain elements of actual socialism, its ideology was more fascist than anything else.
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    Erm - Libertarians are NOT Liberals! Quite the opposite in fact. Make Wikipedia your friend.
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    The Libertarian Party has been around for quite a while. Libertarians are not independent by any definition. Independent implies that one is independent of any one specific ideology - in terms of the political party.

    I always wondered why I was never moved to read Ayn Rand. The guests Thom Hartmann has on his show (thereby succeeding in keeping things fair and balanced by giving them a voice) have proved to me that Ayn Rand is far, far away from anything I value.

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    ^True, but one still must look at the context in which Rand was writing. Her family had emigrated from Russia. She has also mentioned witnessing WW2, so that had a profound effect on her ideology.

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    all the jews I know are Republican and to say that people with education tend to be more liberal, therefore implying liberals are more educated than republicans is bullshit. im an independent but thats BS. this is why I have issues with liberals-they claim to be fair and accepting but in reality are far worse in that sense than republicans

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    Examples?

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