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    Juval Aviv was the Israeli Agent whom the movie "Munich" was
    about... He was Golda Meir's bodyguard and she appointed him to track
    down and bring to justice the Palestinian terrorists who took the
    Israeli athletes hostage and killed them during the Munich Olympic
    Games. In a lecture in NYC a few weeks ago he shared information that
    EVERY American needs to know but our government has not shared. His bio
    is below, his book is "Staying Safe".

    First, I am going to share what he discussed in regard to the Bush
    Administration, 9/11 and Iraq and then I will share his predictions for
    the next attack on the U.S. He predicted the London subway bombing on
    the Bill O'Reilly show on Fox News stating publicly that it would happen
    within a week - O'Reilly laughed and mocked him saying that in a week he
    wanted him back on the show and unfortunately, within a week the
    terrorist attack occurred.

    Juval Aviv gave intelligence (via what he had gathered in Israel and the
    Middle East) to the Bush Administration about 9/11 a month before it
    occurred. His report specifically said they would use planes as bombs
    and target high profile buildings and monuments. The Administration
    ridiculed him and refused to respond. Congress has since hired him as a
    security consultant - but still the Administration does not listen to him.

    He didn't agree with going into Iraq - said it didn't make sense if we
    wanted terrorists responsible for 9/11 (and also he believes in Golda
    Meir's approach which was to bring justice to the terrorists but do not
    take down civilians - killing civilians only creates more terrorists -
    but similar to Bush, Israel's subsequent leaders were not as insightful
    as Golda Meir) - however, when we did decide to invade Iraq we should
    have learned from Israel's past mistakes.

    He very articulately stated that Israel's greatest mistake against their
    war on terror was to invade the West Bank and Gaza and stay there... He
    said they should have done the proven anti-terrorist strategy which was
    "Hit and Leave" instead of "Hit and Stay." Now we are stuck in Iraq and
    it is worse than Vietnam - Iraq is the U.S.'s West Bank/ Gaza. He
    doesn't think we will ever be able to truly leave because even when we
    are able to pull our troops back we will still have to go back regularly
    which will keep us quagmired. We should have hit hard and left immediately.

    Now for the scary stuff.... He predicts the next attack on the U.S. is
    coming within the next few months. Forget hijacking airplanes because he
    says terrorists will NEVER try and hijack a plane again as the people on
    the plane will not go down quietly. Aviv believes our airport security
    is a joke- we are being reactionary versus looking at strategies that
    are effective. 1) our machines are outdated. They look for metal and the
    new explosives are made of plastic 2) He talked about how some idiot
    tried to light his shoe on fire - we now have to take off our shoes, a
    group of idiots tried to bring aboard liquid explosives - now we can't
    bring liquids on board. He is waiting for some suicidal maniac to pour
    liquid explosive on their underwear and light up in a plane or in the
    terminal and then we will all have to travel naked! 3) We only focus on
    security when people are heading to the gates, he says that if a
    terrorist attack targets airports in the future, they will target busy
    times and on the front end when people are checking in. It would be easy
    for someone to take two suitcases of explosives, walk up to a busy
    check-in line, ask a person next to them to watch their bags for a
    minute while they run to the restroom or get a drink and then detonate
    the bags BEFORE security even gets involved. Israel checks bags before
    people can enter the airport.

    Now, back to his predictions: He says the next attack will come in a few
    months and will involve suicide bombers and non-suicide bombers in
    places that people congregate: Disneyland, Las Vegas, Big Cities (NY,
    SFO, Chicago, etc...) and there it will be shopping malls, subways in
    rush hour, train stations, casinos, etc.. as well as rural America
    (Wyoming, Montana, etc...). The attack will be simultaneous detonations
    around the country (they like big impact) 5-8 cities including rural
    areas. They won't need to use suicide bombers because at largely
    populated places like the MGM Grand in Vegas - they can simply valet park!

    He says this is well known in intelligence circles but our government
    does not want to alarm Americans. However, he also said that the US will
    attack Iran and Syria before Bush leaves office. In addition, since we
    don't have enough troops The US will likely use small, strategic nuclear
    weapons regardless that the headlines the next day will read "US Nukes
    Islamic World" and the world will be a different place to such an extent
    that global warming will be irrelevant.

    He travels regularly to the Middle East and he knows his stuff. On a
    good note - he says we don't have to worry about being nuked - he says
    the terrorists who want to destroy America will not use sophisticated
    weapons - they like suicide as the frontline approach. He also says the
    next level of terrorists will not be coming from abroad, but will be
    homegrown - having attended our schools and universities - but will have
    traveled frequently back and forth to the Middle East. They will know
    and understand Americans but we won't understand them - we still only
    have a handful of Arabic and Farsi speaking people in our intelligence
    networks and we need that to change he said...

    What can we do? From an intelligence perspective he says the U.S. needs
    to stop relying on satellites and technology for intelligence but follow
    Israel, Ireland and England's example of human intelligence both from an
    infiltration perspective as well as trust citizens to help. We need to
    engage and educate ourselves as citizens but our government treats us
    like babies and thinks we can't handle it and will panic.

    He did a test for Congress recently putting an empty briefcase in 5
    major spots in 5 US cities and not one person called 911 or sought a
    policeman to check it out. In fact, in Chicago - someone tried to steal
    it! In Israel an unattended bag or package would be reported in seconds
    with a citizen shouting "Unattended Bag" and the area cleared slowly,
    calmly and immediately by the people themselves. Unfortunately, we
    haven't hurt enough yet for us to be that concerned....


    He also discussed how many children were in preschool and kindergarten
    after 9/11 without parents to pick them up and the schools did not have
    a plan. Do you have a plan with your kids, schools and families if you
    cannot reach each other by phone? If you cannot return to your house? If
    you cannot get to your child's school - do they know what to do? We sh
    ould all have a plan.


    He said that our government's plan after the next attack is to
    immediately cut-off EVERYONE's ability to use their telephone, cell
    phone, blackberry because they don't want terrorists to be able to talk
    to one another - do you have a plan if you cannot communicate directly
    with those that you love?


    Last week the Today Show began with a segment that Al Qaeda was
    resurfacing - the same kind of action on the Pakistani border occurred
    before 9/11...

    It is scary, but we do not have panic, we just need to be aware....
    Unfortunately, the current Administration has not been helpful and we
    can not change things until 2008.

    Bio follows:

    Juval Aviv holds an M.A. in Business from Tel Aviv University and is
    President and CEO of Interfor, Inc., an international corporate
    intelligence and investigations firm.

    Juval Aviv is President and CEO of Interfor, Inc. Based in New York with
    offices around the world, founded in 1979, Interfor provides foreign and
    domestic intelligence services to the legal, corporate and financial
    communities and conducts investigations around the world. In addition,
    Mr. Aviv serves as a special consultant to the U.S. Congress and other
    policy makers on issues of terrorism, fraud and money laundering.

    A leading authority on terrorist networks, Mr. Aviv served as lead
    investigator for Pan Am Airways into the Pan Am 103-Lockerbie terrorist
    bombing. He was featured in the recent film, Munich, as the leader of
    the Israeli team that tracked down the terrorists who kidnapped the
    Israeli Olympic team. Interfor's services encompass white-collar crime
    investigations, asset search and recovery, corporate due diligence,
    litigation support, fraud investigations, internal compliance
    investigations, security and vulnerability assessments. Since its
    inception, Interfors asset investigation services have recovered over $2
    billion worldwide for its clients.

    Before founding Interfor, Mr. Aviv served as an officer in the Israel
    Defense Force (Major, retired) leading an elite Commando/Intelligence
    Unit, and was later selected by the Isr aeli Secret Service (Mossad) to
    participate in a number of intelligence and special operations in many
    countries in the late 1960s and 1970s. While working as a consultant
    with El Al, Mr. Aviv surveyed the existing security measures in place
    and updated El Als security program, making El Al the safest airline in
    business today.

    Most recently, Mr. Aviv wrote Staying Safe: The Complete Guide to
    Protecting Yourself, Your Family, and Your Business,(2004,Harper Resource).

    He has been a guest on ABC Nightline, FOX News, CNN, BBC Newsnight, ZDF
    (German National Television) and RAI (Italian National Television) and
    has been featured in numerous articles in major magazines and newspapers
    worldwide.
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    yes.

    be afraid of everything.

    we will protect you.

    9/11 9/11 9/11
    I am from the American CIA and I have a radio in my head. I am going to kill you.

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    Well yes, this is all about stating the Totally Fucking Obvious, but it seems that some people who are cocooned in their complacent "it will never happen to me" bubbles actually NEED to be told the Totally Fucking Obvious. Of course the next generation of suicide bombers will be 'home grown' in America. The nutters who bombed London last year were British born and bred.

    This guy is probably being too Chicken Licken about all this, but the fact remains that people still don't Get It about terrorism and its potential to strike randomly, indiscriminately and without warning. That's what terrorism IS.
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    Yes.

    and if you're afraid, then they win.

    so ignore it
    I am from the American CIA and I have a radio in my head. I am going to kill you.

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    Urban Legends Reference Pages: Juval Aviv

    I read this earlier today... interesting information, but there is also more to it. For example, these predictions that they talk about applying to "the next few months" were actually made in 2005.

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    I don't know of anyone here who has their head in the sand-of course there are home-grown terroists around. To think they won't try anything is stupid beyond belief. At the same time, no one I know is going to give up going to the mall. You just have to live your life.
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