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    By ROBERT TANNER
    AP National Writer
    NEW YORK (AP) - Democrats cleaned up big in off-year
    elections from New Jersey to California, sinking the
    candidate who embraced President George W. Bush in the
    final days of the Virginia governor's campaign. They also
    turned back Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's efforts
    to limit the power of California's Democratic leaders.
    Democratic Sen. Jon Corzine easily won the New Jersey
    governor's seat after an expensive, mudslinging campaign,
    trouncing Republican businessman Doug Forrester by 10
    percentage points. Polls in the last week had forecast a
    much closer race.
    Democratic Lt. Gov. Tim Kaine won a solid victory in
    Republican-leaning Virginia, beating Republican Jerry
    Kilgore by more than 5 percentage points. Democrats crowed
    that Bush's election-eve rally for the former state
    attorney general only spurred more Kaine supporters to the
    polls.
    In California, Schwarzenegger, his popularity plummeting,
    suffered a major setback in a special election that turned
    into a referendum on his leadership - with the outcome
    dimming his chances for re-election next year.
    The film star-turned-governor failed in his push to rein
    in the Democratic-controlled Assembly with ballot measures
    that would cap spending, remove legislators' redistricting
    powers, and make teachers work five years instead of two to
    pass probation. A fourth measure he supported was too close
    to call; it would require public-employee unions to get
    members' permission before their dues could be used for
    political purposes.
    Elsewhere, Texas voters overwhelmingly approved a
    constitutional ban on gay marriage, Maine voted to preserve
    the state's new gay-rights law, and moderate Republican
    Mayor Michael Bloomberg easily clinched a second term in
    heavily Democratic New York.
    Democrats said the results were the first steps toward
    bigger victories next year - when control of Congress and
    36 governors' seats are at stake - and for the 2008
    presidential race.
    "I believe national Republican politics ... really had an
    effect in Virginia and California," said Democratic Party
    Chairman Howard Dean. Voters "don't like the abuse of
    power, they don't like the culture of corruption. They want
    the nation to go in a different way."
    Republicans warned against reading too much into two
    governorships that started the day in Democratic hands and
    ended that way. Virginia Gov. Mark Warner was barred by law
    from seeking a second term, and New Jersey acting Gov.
    Richard J. Codey opted not to run.
    "It's not some type of trend," said Republican Gov. Mike
    Huckabee of Arkansas, noting that both seats were won by
    Democrats in 2001 when Bush's popularity was high. Still,
    he acknowledged the defeats - and said they could help
    rally the Republican base next year. "I don't think
    anybody will be complacent now."
    In Virginia, Bush appeared at a Monday night rally with
    Kilgore - the first public campaign appearance with the
    president in a state that twice voted for Bush.
    "There's no way to spin this than anything other than a
    major defeat for Republicans and for President Bush," said
    University of Virginia political scientist Larry Sabato.
    "... He came in on Election Eve and he had no discernible
    effect. ... If anything, he may have cost Kilgore some
    votes."
    The travails of the Bush administration can't be
    discounted, said Norm Ornstein at the conservative American
    Enterprise Institute, listing opposition to the Iraq war,
    the mishandled response to Hurricane Katrina, and the
    indictment of a top White House aide in the CIA leak
    investigation. "It's been an awful time for Republicans."
    The elections took place at the lowest point in Bush's
    five-year presidency with his approval ratings plunging
    below 40 percent in some polls. Republicans, who control
    both house of Congress, have been further damaged by
    criminal charges against powerful congressman Tom DeLay,
    who was forced to give up his leadership position, and an
    investigation into the leading Republican in the Senate,
    Bill Frist.
    Both governors' races were marked by record-breaking
    spending and vicious personal attacks.
    In Virginia, Kilgore's campaign ran an ad claiming Kaine,
    a death penalty opponent, would have refused to execute
    Adolf Hitler, while Forrester quoted Corzine's ex-wife as
    saying he had let down his family and he would let down New
    Jersey.
    In his concession speech, Forrester urged Corzine to bring
    the state together. Corzine acknowledged that the campaign
    had been painful.
    "Sometimes, innocent bystanders are hurt in politics. ...
    Some seen, some unseen. And I hope we can push beyond
    this," he said, appearing with his three grown children.
    Warner - who had campaigned hard for Kaine - declared:
    "Tonight, Virginians from one end of our commonwealth to
    the other said no to negative campaigning." Kaine's
    victory was likely to boost Warner's profile as a possible
    2008 presidential candidate.
    Corzine and Forrester, both multimillionaires, spent
    upward of $70 million (-59.6 million) to succeed Codey, who
    assumed the office last year when Democratic incumbent Jim
    McGreevey resigned over a homosexual affair.
    A voter survey in New Jersey found women favored Corzine
    by more than 20 points while men narrowly preferred
    Forrester. Two-thirds of Hispanics and nearly all blacks
    favored the U.S. senator, while whites and wealthier people
    split their votes between the candidates. Self-described
    independents favored Corzine narrowly over Forrester.
    Most voters said President Bush was not a factor in their
    choices Tuesday, according to the survey conducted Tuesday
    by the AP and its polling partner, Ipsos. The survey was
    based on interviews with 1,280 adults throughout New Jersey
    who said they voted in the governor's election.
    Survey results were weighted to age, race, sex, education,
    region and 2004 vote. The margin of sampling error was plus
    or minus 2.5 percentage points.
    Corzine, as governor, will have the power to choose a
    successor to fill his unexpired Senate term. The seat will
    be up for election in a year, but whoever Corzine appoints
    will likely have a big advantage in that election.
    In other races:
    -Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick was in a tight race with
    challenger Freman Hendrix, a deputy mayor under
    Kilpatrick's predecessor.
    -San Diego surf-shop owner Donna Frye, a maverick
    Democratic councilwoman who nearly won the mayor's race in
    a write-in bid last year, lost to Republican Jerry Sanders,
    a former police chief backed by the city's business
    establishment.
    'Those who sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.' Ben Franklin

    "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross."
    --Sinclair Lewis

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    And a big GO FUCK YOURSELF to Texas, yet another place I won't dare visit because of the population retardation factor.
    I am from the American CIA and I have a radio in my head. I am going to kill you.

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    Default Re: Dems do well in off-year voting; Texas bans gay marriage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok View Post
    And a big GO FUCK YOURSELF to Texas, yet another place I won't dare visit because of the population retardation factor.
    Well if you are going to go by that factor, then there are very few places you will be able to visit Grimm..ANYWHERE!!! (and that includes Canada! )

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    Quote Originally Posted by buttmunch View Post

    In California, Schwarzenegger, his popularity plummeting,
    suffered a major setback in a special election that turned
    into a referendum on his leadership (WTF?)- with the outcome
    dimming his chances for re-election next year.
    The film star-turned-governor failed in his push to rein
    in the Democratic-controlled Assembly ...
    .
    I can just picture some dumbasses in California emerging
    from the voting booth going, "Duuuude, I voted for Arnie!
    'I'LL BE BAAHHCK!'"

    Further proof that "democracy is the worship of jackals
    by jackasses."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sojiita View Post
    Well if you are going to go by that factor, then there are very few places you will be able to visit Grimm..ANYWHERE!!! (and that includes Canada! )
    Last I checked, all of Canada allowed enshrined gay marriage Federally, so I feel comfortable going anywhere.. except maybe Alberta
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    Default Re: Dems do well in off-year voting; Texas bans gay marriage.

    What's wrong with Alberta?

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    Default Re: Dems do well in off-year voting; Texas bans gay marriage.

    It's the Texas of Canada.. religious right wingers, oil and cattle. Same mentality.
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    Default Re: Dems do well in off-year voting; Texas bans gay marriage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok View Post
    It's the Texas of Canada.. religious right wingers, oil and cattle. Same mentality.
    Ugh, I guess every country has a place for the dumb folks.heh

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    Default Re: Dems do well in off-year voting; Texas bans gay marriage.

    Well Canada has 2.. Alberta, and Newfoundland!
    I am from the American CIA and I have a radio in my head. I am going to kill you.

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    Default Re: Dems do well in off-year voting; Texas bans gay marriage.

    Ah yes, the newfies... and I do dislike Alberta, but I can't hate them tooooo much because as much of a conservative butthead Ralph Klein may be, he did get them out of debt and everyone is getting, what is it? $400 cheque from the government? I'm jealous. Goddamned BCNDP and their dumping of BC into the giant abyss of debt.

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    Default Re: Dems do well in off-year voting; Texas bans gay marriage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok View Post
    And a big GO FUCK YOURSELF to Texas, yet another place I won't dare visit because of the population retardation factor.

    You'll be missed.

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    Default Re: Dems do well in off-year voting; Texas bans gay marriage.

    I doubt the idiots who live there would bother to look outward from themselves and their bibles to notice.

    And i just *love* how anything negative said about Texas (even when it's obvious Texas is being fucking retarded) translates into some kind of personal attack against yourself.

    Texas voted in a retarded manner. The overwhelming majority of those that voted are closeminded bigots. That's an inescapable fact.
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    Default Re: Dems do well in off-year voting; Texas bans gay marriage.

    Well, the Democrats won in my town, so I'm happy, plus the law firm I work for will be their council, so that is more work for us. Good.
    Keep passing the open windows.

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    Default Re: Dems do well in off-year voting; Texas bans gay marriage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok View Post
    I doubt the idiots who live there would bother to look outward from themselves and their bibles to notice.

    And i just *love* how anything negative said about Texas (even when it's obvious Texas is being fucking retarded) translates into some kind of personal attack against yourself.

    Texas voted in a retarded manner. The overwhelming majority of those that voted are closeminded bigots. That's an inescapable fact.

    Whatever you say, Grimmlok. Obviously, you know more than I do about the state I spent 25 years in.

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    Default Re: Dems do well in off-year voting; Texas bans gay marriage.

    DH, you can't deny that they voted to ban gay marriage, and that's what Grimm is talking about! He's not attacking YOU. Geez.

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