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    Default If war is not the answer, then what is?

    http://www.theatlasphere.com/columns...der-answer.php
    Opinion Editorial by Larry Elder - Dec 8, 2006
    “War is not the answer.”
    So said the bumper sticker on the car I parked behind. Early for my haircut, I decided to sit a bit and ponder the gravity of that message. “War is not the answer” — to what? To non-war?
    To, say, the Japanese sneak attack on Pearl Harbor? To Germany’s invasion of Poland in 1939? To the simultaneous multi-Arab nation attack on the newly United-Nations-chartered State of Israel in 1948?
    The bumper-sticker driver, undoubtedly, knows of a “peaceful” or “diplomatic” response to all of history’s wars. Since he or she completely rejects the notion of a “just war,” I decided to wait a bit in hopes that the driver might return to enlighten me.
    What to do, for example, with the president of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who directly threatens the United States? He said, “God willing, with the force of God behind it, we shall soon experience a world without the United States and Zionism.”
    Only recently, he elaborated. In talks in Qatar with Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh, Ahmadinejad said, “[T]he Zionist regime was created to establish dominion of arrogant states over the region and to enable the enemy to penetrate the heart Muslim land.”
    Haniyeh said Israel was “on the verge of disappearing.” “There is no doubt the Palestinian nation and Muslims as a whole will emerge victorious,” the Iranian president told Haniyeh.
    Since “war is not the answer,” how would Mr./Ms. Bumper Sticker respond? Ignore it? Apparently, Ahmadinejad does not mean it. Take action first? Of course not, since, if “war is not the answer,” then presumably “preemptive war” is not either.
    What about our military’s recent report of “smoking gun” evidence of Iran’s direct shipment of munitions to “insurgents” in Iraq? After free elections in Iraq where nearly 80 percent of eligible Iraqis voted, after the establishment of a constitution, after the establishment of a multi-ethnic government, the Holocaust-denying country of Iran sends money, munitions, and intel to destroy Iraq’s fledgling government. Advice, please.
    Israel, the country Iran seeks to “wipe out from the map of the world,” pulled completely out of the Gaza Strip. In return, the Palestinians sent rockets into Israel and kidnapped a soldier.
    Meanwhile, in southern Lebanon, under the noses of the United Nations “peacekeepers,” terror group Hezbollah, financed by Iran, built a stockpile of thousands of rockets, a substantial portion of which ended up cascading down on Israeli towns and villages during the Hezbollah/Lebanon/Syria/Iran war against Israel. What, then, is “the answer”?
    What of World War II — a catastrophic conflict resulting in over 50 million military and civilian deaths? Winston Churchill wrote that if France and Britain had taken early action to stop Hitler, the entire war might have been averted. But, again, “preemptive war” is still war, is it not?
    Iran claims it pursues uranium enrichment for peaceful purposes. Yet the International Atomic Energy Agency cannot corroborate those claims. Meanwhile, members of the United Nations, like Russia, sell nuclear technology to Iran. China negotiates deals with Iran to ensure a continuous supply of oil.
    If “war is not the answer,” what about selling nuclear technology when the buyer says that a fellow United Nations state should be wiped out?
    What’s the answer to one of Ahmadinejad’s predecessors, Hashemi Rafsanjani, who said, “[T]he use of an atomic bomb against Israel would totally destroy Israel, while [the same] against the Islamic world would only cause damage. Such a scenario is not inconceivable.”
    But that’s just Israel. What about Europe and America? Osama bin Laden’s 1998 fatwa urged Muslims to target American civilians as “a religious duty.”
    Michael Scheuer, who created and ran the CIA’s bin Laden unit, says that in 2003 bin Laden got a Saudi sheik to issue a fatwa authorizing the use of nuclear weapons against Americans, to retaliate for Muslims killed in the “holy war.”
    Jordanian journalist Fouad Hussein, for his book Al-Zarqawi: Al-Qaeda’s Second Generation, interviewed several of bin Laden’s top lieutenants, including the late Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.
    Hussein outlines al-Qaeda’s strategy of seven phases — the first one beginning as an “awakening” for Muslims worldwide following the September 11 attacks. The plan culminates with the “definitive victory” of “one-and-a-half billion Muslims” and the establishment of a global Islamic caliphate by 2020.
    The Baker-Hamilton Commission wants “dialogue” with Syria and Iran. But the United Nations implicated Syria in the assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri. More recently, assassins shot to death Pierre Gemayel, the high-ranking Lebanese industry minister, and another critic of Syria.
    Oops, I was now late for my appointment. So the “answer” to war must await my haircut and mustache trim.
    Larry Elder is a syndicated radio talk-show host and the author of Showdown: Confronting Bias, Lies, and the Special Interests That Divide America. He is also host of daytime TV's "The Larry Elder Show," and enthusiastically recommends Atlas Shrugged to visitors of his web site.

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    I hate this guy, he's such a butthole. Typical republican, always looking for the short quick fix and never investigating the root causes of events.
    I am from the American CIA and I have a radio in my head. I am going to kill you.

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    This country is formed by very individualistc buttholes. I grew up around them, and now I hate it also. They make their money in this economy, and then they get the hell out of it. And then they act as if they are on retirement, while the rest of the people depend on whatever.

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    That's the sense i get when i visit.. no homogenization, no sense of community.. always this pervasive fear of everyone else and a "dont touch ANYTHING of mine or i'll shoot/sue you" vibe.
    I am from the American CIA and I have a radio in my head. I am going to kill you.

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    Thanks for that word Grimm. Homogenization. And no one even notices this or even misses it either!!
    It's crazy because shouldn't this be the MOST important thing to a healthy envirnoment and world?

    They have finally (and this is recent) passed a law that you can't collect money on rent propery in another state. I swear that most of the apartments were build by men who never even resided here! And they were collecting monthy income from tenants! They have just recently taken that freedom away like 3-4 years ago and forced them to sell it off to a buyer in-state or for govn't repossesion.
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    Well americans dont like homogenization because it's an evil commie pinko socialist plot to make everyone un-free™

    For a society to function in any cohesive way SOME homogenization (wuch as the providing of government services/healthcare/laws) has to occur or else you get anarchy.
    I am from the American CIA and I have a radio in my head. I am going to kill you.

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    Well, we haven't come to anarchy yet. And the state laws will do whatever they can to prevent that. That is probably why they won't allow same-sex marriages here, it would completely f*ck our state systems up.

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    We haven't come to anarchy YET.

    Because we got lucky a few times.

    Otherwise...
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    Bet he is on the down-low.
    Don't slap me, cause I'm not in the mood!

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    Showdown: Confronting Bias, Lies, and the Special Interests That Divide America
    Anyone ever read this guy's book? I clicked on the link to his book at Amazon and they've got it new & used starting at a whopping 9 cents.

    Too much to pay to read 384 pages about the U.S. government's "liberal fascism," the lack of racism in America, why we should rid ourselves of public education, and the "liberal bias" of the mainstream media.
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    ^^ yeah so an asshat.
    I am from the American CIA and I have a radio in my head. I am going to kill you.

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