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    Giuliani moves toward White House bid
    By DEVLIN BARRETT, Associated Press Writer
    Tue Nov 14, 7:09 AM ET

    WASHINGTON - The man once dubbed "America's mayor" has taken the first step toward becoming America's next president.

    Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, a Republican moderate who achieved near-mythic popularity for his handling of the Sept. 11 attacks, filed papers Friday in New York to create the Rudy Giuliani Presidential Exploratory Committee Inc. A copy of the document was obtained by The Associated Press.

    Creating an exploratory committee does not make Giuliani a declared candidate, but it does mean he intends to travel the country gauging support and preparing for a White House bid.

    "Mayor Giuliani has not made a decision yet," Giuliani spokeswoman Sunny Mindel said in a statement Monday night. "With the filing of this document, we have taken the necessary legal steps so an organization can be put in place and money can be raised to explore a possible presidential run in 2008."

    One potential rival for the GOP nomination, Sen. John McCain of Arizona, said Sunday he was taking the initial step of setting up an exploratory committee.

    Under federal election law, an exploratory committee allows an individual to travel and gauge the level of support for a candidacy without formally declaring themselves a candidate and adhering to all the federal rules of fundraising. An individual who spends money only to test the waters — but not to campaign for office — does not have to register as a candidate under the election law.

    The GOP field is expected to grow with other presidential hopefuls, among them Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, Sen. Bill Frist of Tennessee, Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee and New York Gov. George Pataki.

    Democratic Gov. Tom Vilsack of Iowa has filed to establish a full-blown campaign committee and will make a more formal announcement of his candidacy later this month.

    Giuliani has said for months that he would wait until after the 2006 elections to decide whether to embark on a White House bid. The former mayor is a moderate who supports gun control, same-sex civil unions, embryonic stem-cell research and abortion rights — stands that would put him at odds with the majority of the GOP conservative base.

    In 2006, the Giuliani brand remained strong. He headlined fundraisers for Republican candidates nationwide, and his travel has done little to deny 2008 ambitions.

    Giuliani enjoys strong name recognition. An AP-AOL News poll conducted in late October found that, among Republicans, Giuliani was essentially tied with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and McCain as the person they would most like to see elected president in 2008. Rice has insisted that she will not run.

    Giuliani was in his final months as New York City mayor when a pair of planes crashed into the World Trade Center's towers. Within hours, he was visiting the site, caked in dust and walking through the chaos, a moment replayed repeatedly on television.

    Assuming the role of "America's Mayor" and Time magazine's Person of the Year for 2001, Giuliani remained an in-demand speaker and GOP fundraiser. He was the first Republican to lead New York City in decades, cut crime and redeveloped rundown parts of the city.

    He was a former U.S. attorney, leading campaigns against organized crime and corruption. He spent two years as the Justice Department's No. 3 post, overseeing all U.S. attorneys, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the U.S. Marshals Service. The Brooklyn native was first elected New York's mayor in 1993.

    Prior to Sept. 11, Giuliani also his share of critics, many of whom argued that the city's falling crime rate was partly due to an overly aggressive police force that too often used excessive or deadly force.

    Giuliani eyed a run for the Senate in 2000, but he ended that bid while battling prostate cancer and a made-for-tabloids divorce from television star Donna Hanover. The messy divorce and his relationship with Judith Nathan made a campaign against Hillary Rodham Clinton all the more difficult.
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    It's getting interesting isn't it???? As a New Yorker (though not a NYC'er) I can tell you that Rudy has a pretty good rep around the state.....but would love to hear what the true NYC'ers think of this ie: Wicked Ho, etc.

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    I have my odds with Rudy. For one I do think that he is a moderate within the republican party, and his leadership skills during 9/11 was admirable and heroic. But at the same time, he kind of stirkes me as someone who will let a certain group of people persuade him to vote for things he normally would'nt do. I don't find him trustworthy to be president.sorry

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    He seriously has no chance up against Hillary and her major $upport$! really though; she has possibly hundreds of millions of dollars behind her azz and it takes at least $100,000,000.00 to run for president nowadays. Plus she has the star power of her partner in crime, ahem, political goals; Mr. William Jefferson Clinton and he ooozes charisma.

    and you can't go from mayor to president in 1 swoop like that. There are steps involved to the presidency and most everyone that reached that top step has taken the same ones leading up to it.

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    He's a neocon reich wing ass sucker. He has no problems giving a reach around to the evangelicals should it suit his purposes.
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    I dunno what I think about him. Like, I especially am still not impressed with cutting funding to that art gallery/museum whatever in the city that had those paintings of Mary and such in ways that the fundies didn't like. And when he basically made being homeless illegal.

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    ....however, as an Italian-american (the good half) by way of NYC I would get a little pleasure outta seeing one in the top office and i know all the old italian ladies still alive and kickin' in their rent-controlled neighborhoods in the villiage would love it too....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohmygoodness View Post
    I dunno what I think about him. Like, I especially am still not impressed with cutting funding to that art gallery/museum whatever in the city that had those paintings of Mary and such in ways that the fundies didn't like. And when he basically made being homeless illegal.
    I never saw the paintings... and how does one enforce being homeless 'illegal'?? Is this a new concept?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieElizabeth View Post
    I never saw the paintings... and how does one enforce being homeless 'illegal'?? Is this a new concept?
    What does you having seen the paintings have anything to do with anything?

    And by throwing people in jail...? How else do you enforce anything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohmygoodness View Post

    And by throwing people in jail...? How else do you enforce anything?
    Oh, I didn't know, I have never heard of that where I live. Sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieElizabeth View Post
    Oh, I didn't know, I have never heard of that where I live. Sorry.
    What? I'm confused. They don't put people in jail in Dallas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohmygoodness View Post
    in the city that had those paintings of Mary and such in ways that the fundies didn't like.
    Well, you mentioned it yourself. So, I take it that it was something sacred?

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    Rudy giuliani moves toward White House bid
    Just curious why my title was randomly lowercased? Is that automatic or is someone doing that? It was done on another thread title of mine recently, which was fine, but obviously in this case "giuliani" should be uppercase and that's the way I wrote it. I just don't want any infractions for not properly titling when I did.
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    I think that they may help those people more than hurt them? Now, I say that with a question mark, but keep reading then...

    Quote Originally Posted by ohmygoodness View Post
    What? I'm confused. They don't put people in jail in Dallas?
    Not for being just homeless, I don't think so. Now, for being immoral and bad? Maybe.

    But for being just homeless? I think it falls more into the "needing help" catergory, which then you are given food and shelter, usually by a local church, though... because once you involve yourself with the govn't; you better really have some problems, I think. (abuse, disability, ect..)

    Now, if you really classify yourself as an indigent. They are more than likely to say that you have a mental illness, and believe me that there is NO sympathy here, mainly because talking with these people is more like talking to a freakin' ROCK.

    You go on to a state hospital.
    I've never been there, but it has guards. It is like a mental institution. And people who have just gone there for non-stay visits, say that they are consistently locking and unlocking the doors througout the hallways.

    I have been curious enough to seek these sorts of answers out. I have been depressed in my life, so everyone has to find resources to turn to.
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    Fuck Guiliani! Go HRC~~~~!!!!!!!
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