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    RNC chairman a closet 'gay,' charges Bill Maher
    HBO star plans to out other top homosexual Republicans

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    Posted: November 9, 2006
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    RNC Chairman Ken Mehlman

    Political pundit Bill Maher last night accused the head of the Republican National Committee of being a closet "gay."

    Appearing on CNN's Larry King Live, Maher said it's an open secret in Washington that RNC Chairman Ken Mehlman is a homosexual and that he has "never denied" it.

    Maher added that he plans to out at least three other closeted Republican officials – including "chiefs of staff" – on his HBO political show tomorrow night to show their hypocrisy in supporting traditional family values. He is host of "Real Time with Bill Maher."

    King asked Maher if the charges have appeared "in print," and Maher responded affirmatively.

    Rumors of Mehlman's sexual orientation first appeared last year in GQ magazine. The RNC denied the charge. "Ken Mehlman is not gay," said then-RNC official Steve Schmidt. However, when asked directly by "gay" publications, Mehlman has dodged the question.

    Maher brought up the issue while addressing reasons Republicans lost Congress. He said the Mark Foley scandal hurt Republicans. Foley revealed his homosexuality last month after resigning his Florida seat over sexually graphic e-mails in which he allegedly solicited male pages.

    Foley's former chief of staff Kirk Fordham was recently outed by the Los Angeles Times.

    The FBI is investigating reports that another "gay" Republican lawmaker, Jim Kolbe of Arizona, engaged in improper behavior with male pages during a camping trip to the Grand Canyon.

    Maher joked that GOP voters yesterday wanted to vote a straight Republican ticket but "nobody could find a straight Republican."

    Last week, defrocked evangelical leader Ted Haggard confessed to having relations with a homosexual prostitute. Haggard met monthly with White House officials to discuss, among other things, a constitutional amendment banning "gay" marriage.

    Mehlman also supports the amendment.

    The White House took heat earlier in the administration for credentialing fake reporter Jeff Gannon of Talon News Service, a front for a group called GOPUSA. Gannon, whose real name is J.D. Guckert, turned out to be a homosexual porn star.

    Some in Washington have charged the White House and Congress are run by a "Gay Republican Mafia."

    Deputy White House chief of staff Karl Rove's adopted father, who died in 2004, was a closet "gay" who left his mother when Rove was a senior in high school. But Rove still supports a ban on "gay" marriage. "The ideal is that marriage ought to be and should be a union of a man and a woman," he has said.

    He and his wife, Darby, have one child.

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    Sorry, but I just don't agree with outing anyone against their will. Not even hated Repugs.
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    Jeff Gannon was not a 'homosexual porn star'-he was a paid escort/prostitute. The article is wrong in that part-there is a difference. And I have mixed feelings about this. I mean if they are gay and fucking around with men on the side, but then voting for an amendment banning gay marriage and go on supporting agendas that are harmful to gays then I kind of agree with him on outing them.
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    I fully agree with Maher.

    If these self loathing, opportunistic fucks want to support a party or even participate in crafting legislation that oppresses homosexuals then they automatically forfeit any protections from their own kind.

    Out them all, they should not and WILL NOT have it both ways. Then they can see what their support for witch-hunts is like on the receiving end. I cannot state any more strongly how much these shitheads infuriate and sicken me.

    On another note, CNN has scrubbed the question and response from their transcripts, and have started pulling the clip off Youtube.

    I just got a cease-and-desist letter from YouTube, see below, regarding my CNN footage I posted. The footage, you'll recall, was from Larry King Live last night in which Bill Maher outed Republican Party chair Ken Mehlman as gay. It seems that CNN has suddenly decided that it no longer wants bloggers, or YouTube, posting any of its video, which is kind of surprising since I always thought we were doing a CNN a favor by constantly touting their network. Apparently I was wrong.

    NOTE: You can still see the entire video on Huff Post.

    CNN has also now edited the official transcript of Larry King Live, so that no one will ever know what really happened. Here is CNN's transcript:

    MAHER: A lot of the chiefs of staff, the people who really run the underpinnings of the Republican Party are gay. I don't want to mention names, but I will on Friday night.

    KING: You will Friday night?

    MAHER: Well, there's a couple of big people who I think everyone in Washington knows who run the Republican...

    KING: You will name them?

    MAHER: Well, I wouldn't be the first. I'd get sued if I was the first. (A PORTION OF THIS TRANSCRIPT HAS BEEN REMOVED)

    KING: Great way to close out this segment. It's poignant
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    CNN didn't just edit out the naming of Mehlman as gay, they even edited out Larry's question, and Maher's answer, about why gay people sometimes work against their own people. Now why is that question being censored by CNN?

    I plan to cut the video back to ten seconds, the crucial part where Bill Maher outs Mehlman, then put it back up (I also still have the 3 meg file, 1 minute 20 seconds long - as do lots of other people, including the Huff Post). I have a law degree from Georgetown and I know intellectual property law as it concerns journalism. You can post an 8 to 10 second video clip as fair use for news purposes, and that is what I plan to do. And if CNN and Google try to close down my YouTube account for using an 8-10 second snippet for news purposes, they're going to have serious problems.

    Here is the cease and desist I just got from YouTube:



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    Generally, I'm against forcibly outing someone, however, I think HYPOCRITS who openly oppose homosexual rights are merely being impeached with their own actions when they're outed.
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    Bill Mahr's the Man! He can do no wrong in my book and I've rarely only occasionally disagreed w/ his opinions. He's very very liberal and free-thinking and he almost always I'd say 99% of the time has his facts straight b/c he's well read, naturally smart and can see things from all sides. He should be the mayor of Amsterdam or something...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurent View Post
    Generally, I'm against forcibly outing someone, however, I think HYPOCRITS who openly oppose homosexual rights are merely being impeached with their own actions when they're outed.
    Couldn't have said that any better. And I completely agree. F them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurent View Post
    Generally, I'm against forcibly outing someone, however, I think HYPOCRITS who openly oppose homosexual rights are merely being impeached with their own actions when they're outed.
    I see your point but that's just rationalizing a bad decision. If you're going to go for it, accept responsibility that its a bad thing to do and OWN your decisions.

    If Bill comes out and says, yeah I'm an asshole, suck it. I'll respect him a whole lot more than if he wastes inches of newsprint justifying his bullshit.
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    I disagree.

    Outing someone because you feel like they should come out of the closet and quit hiding is taking someone's decision away from them simply because you disagree with their decisions.

    Calling someout out on their blatant hypocrisy of denouncing homosexuality while you engage in homosexual activities, is not outing simply to out. It's a response to their hypocrisy.

    It's two different things, in my opinion.
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    Outing them isn't a bad decision in my book, it should be done at all costs.

    Just like outing congressmen who are beholden to lobbyists, or senators who take bribes.

    it's the same shit. if they want to play with fire, then I want them burned to a crisp. Their hypocrisy is their downfall.

    HAHAHAH! No, he's not gay at ALL!

    CNN's John King just reported that Ken Mehlman will be leaving as chair of the Republican National Committee (i.e., head of the Republican party) by the end of the year. Apparently Kenny's just tuckered out. According to King, "He's been on the gerbil wheel, as one of his close friends put it, for well in excess of six years now and he's tired."

    Uh, okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurent View Post
    I disagree.

    Outing someone because you feel like they should come out of the closet and quit hiding is taking someone's decision away from them simply because you disagree with their decisions.

    Calling someout out on their blatant hypocrisy of denouncing homosexuality while you engage in homosexual activities, is not outing simply to out. It's a response to their hypocrisy.

    It's two different things, in my opinion.
    What she said. There's something to be said for having the courage of your convictions. You can't advocate and legislate one lifestyle, and live another. Well, you can, but if you're caught, don't bitch about the consequences.

    I normally don't believe in outing people, but politicians are public figures and these guys have it coming. If they had any balls or brains, they'd out themselves first.

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    I think outing people against their will is wrong. Especially if they are married or have children...

    that said..... I DO wish that these guys would just fess' up.

    As a republican I don't have a huge issue with homosexuality. I would vote for an openly gay republican, if I agreed with his policies and voting.

    All these guys who are "anti-gay" but really are gay themselves I do not like. I don't trust someone who does that.

    The "pastor" who was married yet seeing a male escort and using drugs makes me physically ill.

    I have thought about gay marriage, and to be honest, even though it goes against my religion, I in reality don't really care. As long as they pay their taxes and pay their own way in society it doesn't truly affect me one way or the other. But then I also think polygamy should be legal (again as long as they pay their taxes and aren't sucking up welfare dollars I don't care).

    I think getting to "know" folks like Sojita here and yes, even Grimm has somewhat changed my view of homosexuals in general.

    Her vocabulary was as bad as, like, whatever.

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    I think outing people against their will is wrong. Especially if they are married or have children..

    Not if they're selling the rest of us down the river. They forfeit any rights to their secret then.

    If they didn't support all that anti-gay crap, i wouldnt give a damn. Keep it a secret all you like. But if you're you're going to be gay and hide it while fucking the rest of us over, oh you best watch out mary. we will out you as fast as we can.
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    It's a tough question. I basically think people should come when they, and only they, are ready. On the other hand, these men are allegedly active hypocrits and since they're effecting--or trying to effect--the law of the land, I can see where outing them is the right thing to do.

    As far as CNN goes, this whole episode makes me wish Ted Turner was still around. He'd be crowing this shit every hour on the hour. CNN has been de-balled since he left the helm. I think I'll write them a letter about this matter and suggest that others do as well.

    ***edit: hahahahaha...sent the letter, accused them of being in league with FauxNews and Murdoch. Also of having no balls. What fun! Everyone must do it now.

    By the way, I don't care if Karl Rove has more kids than the Osmonds. No one will ever convince me that man enjoys so-called normal relations with his wife. He might go through the paces but no way does he enjoy it. He's either a lone wrangler in front of the porn or he's in the bathhouse.
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    I don't agree with outing married men because of the hurt it puts onto their wives and kids (the current preacher scandal). In the case of the preacher, I feel really horrible for his wife and his children. That has got to be the most embarassing and horrible thing. To see it in the newspaper and on the television.

    That is my main concern is the innocent bystanders who get hurt. But then, if this guy had been 1/2 a man and husband, he would never have put his wife into that position in the first place.

    Her vocabulary was as bad as, like, whatever.

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