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    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The U.S. envoy to stalled North Korea nuclear talks says the United States will not tolerate a nuclear North Korea and has warned Pyongyang not to test a nuclear weapon.

    "We are not going to live with a nuclear North Korea," Assistant Secretary of State Chris Hill told the U.S.-Korea Institute at Johns Hopkins University Wednesday. "We are not going to accept it."

    North Korea "can have a future or it can have these weapons. It cannot have both," Hill said.

    South Korea, meanwhile, warned North Korea's stance could trigger a regional atomic arms race that could upend the balance of power in Northeast Asia.

    Any display of Pyongyang's nuclear force could prompt Japan to go nuclear and trigger a regional arms race, South Korean Vice Foreign Minister Yu Myung-hwan said Wednesday, according to The Associated Press.

    Speaking to lawmakers, Yu said such a North Korean nuclear test "could provide a pretext for Japan's nuclear armament."

    "This will prompt countermoves by China or Russia and lead to a change in the balance of power in Northeast Asia," AP reports Yu saying.

    Hill said that on Tuesday the United States passed a message "of deep concern" about a possible test to Pyongyang through the North Korean mission to the United Nations, which serves as a contact between the two governments, but did not receive an answer.

    "We will do all we can to dissuade the DPRK [North Korea] from this test," Hill said.

    He declined to say exactly what the United States would do if North Korea undertakes such a test, but said, "we would have no choice but to act resolutely to make sure that the DPRK understood -- and to make sure that any other country understands -- that this (nuclear test) is a very bad mistake."

    If North Korea does conduct a test, it "will realize that they had a bad day when they made that choice," he said.

    After his appearance, Hill told reporters, "if they think that firing off a weapon will somehow make them a part of some sort of nuclear club, they should think again."

    "If they think that by exploding a weapon, that somehow we will come to terms with it, we won't," he said.

    Citing U.S. belligerence and pressure, North Korea said Tuesday that a nuclear test was in the works. (Pyongyang's statement)

    North Korea's announcement on Tuesday came in the form of a Foreign Ministry statement published by the Korean Central News Agency, or KCNA -- the communist country's official news agency.

    A flurry of diplomatic activity has taken place since the North Korean announcement. U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has reached out to her counterparts in Asia, and U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton has been meeting with members of the U.N. Security Council about a possible statement urging North Korea not to take any provocative action by testing a nuclear weapon.

    Japan on Wednesday pressed a divided U.N. Security Council to adopt a statement urging North Korea to cancel its planned test and return immediately to six-party talks aimed at persuading Pyongyang to scrap its nuclear weapons program.

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    Japan's U.N. Ambassador Kenzo Oshima, the current council president, circulated a draft text warning North Korea that a nuclear test would bring international condemnation, "jeopardize peace, stability and security in the region and beyond," and lead to further unspecified council action, AP reports.

    "I think it is important for the international community, through the council, (to) let North Korea understand that noncompliance would involve some consequences," Oshima said.

    Pyongyang's closest ally, China, called on all parties to return to the six-party talks and implement the agreement reached in September 2005 in which the North pledged to give up its nuclear program in exchange for aid and security guarantees.

    In order to solve the North Korean nuclear issue, U.N. Ambassador Wang Guangya said China and many other countries believed the key was progress in U.S.-North Korean relations.

    "If there could be less mistrust between the two, certainly I think it will lead to good results," he said, according to AP.

    "If North Korea adopts a more constructive approach, this will enable us to make progress, and also if the United States could be more creative in their thinking it will certainly help."

    Tuesday is the first time North Korea has made an official announcement that it is going to conduct nuclear tests. Previously, it has said it had the right to conduct such tests.

    Six-party talks on the country's nuclear program have been stalled for months. In addition to the United States and North Korea, China, Japan, Russia and South Korea are taking part.

    North Korea wants bilateral talks with the United States before the six-party talks resume and it wants Washington to ease up on economic pressures.

    Hill repeated that the United States was willing to meet with North Korean officials, but only within the context of six-party talks.

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    North Korea, ie, it's Glorious Leader may regard itself as a major player in SE Asia but everyone else (including China which has embraced capitalism in all but name with alacrity) couldn't care less. The Cold War of Communism vs Capitalism ended 20years ago although Kim Jong Il and Fidel Castro haven't worked it out yet. If North Korea does have a nucular (sic, props to Dubya) weapon then who do they plan to use it against for for what purpose? And if they do run a test then chances are it will explode on launch and irradiate the North Korean peons in the paddyfields nearby.
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    Well our Dear Reader is ronery, so he invented the Tai Po Dong (snicker) rocket that can reach the western seaboard of the continental US.. presumably with a warhead on the end.

    They've successfully tested a number of rockets in the sea of Japan, which has THEM all in a tizzy.
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    South Korea, meanwhile, warned North Korea's stance could trigger
    a regional atomic arms race that could upend the balance of power
    in Northeast Asia.

    Any display of Pyongyang's nuclear force could prompt Japan to go
    nuclear and trigger a regional arms race, South Korean Vice Foreign
    Minister Yu Myung-hwan said Wednesday, according to The Associated Press.
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    I highly doubt would allow the very stylin' access to nukes.



    ....even though he is really stylin right there.
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    Mao is dead.

    Of course, one or two nukes will not make NK invincible; China
    has hundreds of warheads and owns a huge part of America's
    foreign debt, so they won't allow Kim J-I to wage war on it or
    on Japan.

    But according to globalsecurity.org, China is not going to force
    NK to return to the talks:


    China has rebuffed U.S. calls for a swift U.N. Security Council response to
    North Korea's nuclear weapons test threat, calling the stalled six-party talks
    the only workable solution.

    Security Council members are struggling with the question of how to
    respond to North Korea's nuclear threat.

    As U.S. officials in Washington were warning of activity at potential
    North Korean nuclear test sites, U.N. Ambassador John Bolton was pushing
    for swift diplomatic measures that will send a strong signal to Pyongyang.

    Other Security Council members, however, prefer a more cautious approach.
    Japan Wednesday suggested a statement urging North Korea to return
    to stalled six-party talks on ending its nuclear program and warning
    that weapons tests would jeopardize regional peace.

    Pyongyang walked out of the talks 13 months ago except for a brief meeting last November....

    In unusually blunt language, Bolton criticized what he called "North Korea's
    protectors" on the Council for stalling. He chided his Chinese counterpart,
    Ambassador Wang Guangya, for not being able to make any substantive
    contribution to the morning meeting.

    "Ambassador Wang said he has no instructions today, so I'm not
    sure whether there's even a possibility we can have a response today,"
    he said.

    The Chinese envoy acknowledged that his country's leadership is
    still studying possible responses to North Korea's nuclear threat. But
    he rejected the U.S. call for tough diplomatic measures, and emphasized
    Beijing's support for the six-party format, which involves North and South
    Korea, Russia, China, Japan and the United States. He urged Washington
    to be "more creative" in trying to coax Pyongyang back to the six-party
    negotiating table.

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    I know Mao is dead, but that doesn't make his portrait any less funny considering China is still festooned with it.
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    I doubt any of N.K.'s shit could even survive launch let alone crossing the biggest ocean in the world.

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    NK may be oppressive and insular to the point of paranoia, but I really don't see any strategic benefit for them to use a nuke against anyone. I think it's all posturing to prove they are capable of developing a nuke to distract their downtrodden masses from the fact that their Dear Reader is in charge of a country that can't feed its own population.
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    If North Korea does conduct a test, it "will realize that they had a bad day when they made that choice," he said.
    I guess we are going to find out what that means then, because they've done it.
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    yea I was just watching CNN, they've already conducted a test Sunday (yesterday?)
    I think NK is crazy and desperate enough to actually launch one to Japan... GO US of A, get them before they get you! (or at least pls protect Jappers )

    If you think it's crazy, you ain't seen a thing. Just wait until we're goin down in flames.

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    It would be kinda ironc if the US nuked NK to prevent NK nuking Japan......
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