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    Angry US didn't kill any civilians, media lying says Rumsfeld

    Well why don't we just do away with it then? Just get rid of the media altogether and have every channel, newspaper and website be THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION RUMOR CONTROL NEWSBREAK.

    Tuesday, August 29, 2006; 2:29 AM

    FALLON NAVAL AIR STATION, Nev. -- Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said Monday he is deeply troubled by the success of terrorist groups in "manipulating the media" to influence Westerners.

    "That's the thing that keeps me up at night, (Not the 2500 US deaths in the region, or the 100,000 civilians who've died)" he said during a question-and-answer session with about 200 naval aviators and other Navy personnel at this flight training base for Navy and Marine pilots.

    Rumsfeld was asked whether the criticism he draws as Pentagon chief and a leading advocate of the war in Iraq is an impediment to performing his job. He said it was not and he knows from history that wars are normally unpopular with many Americans. "I expect that," he said. "I understand that."

    "What bothers me the most is how clever the enemy is," he continued, launching an extensive broadside at Islamic extremist groups which he said are trying to undermine Western support for the war on terror.

    "They are actively manipulating the media in this country" by, for example, falsely blaming U.S. troops for civilian deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan, he said. (Oh that's right, Haditha didn't happen, nor did Abu Graihb, nor did the incidents with burning phosphorus, or the rape/killing of that one girl, or the 100,000 deaths according to the Red Cross, etc etc.)

    "They can lie with impunity," he said, while U.S. troops are held to a high standard of conduct.

    Later, at a Reno, Nev., convention of the Veterans of Foreign Wars, Rumsfeld made similar points.

    "The enemy lies constantly _ almost totally without penalty," he told the veterans group, which presented him with the Dwight D. Eisenhower Distinguished Service Award. "They portray our cause as a war on Islam ( Which Bush didn't help at all with his crusader language during speeches) when in fact the overwhelming majority of victims of their terrorism have been the thousands and thousands of innocent Muslims _ men, women and children _ that they have killed."

    He added, "While some at home argue for tossing in the towel, the enemy is waiting and hoping that we will do just that."

    Rumsfeld often complains about what he calls the terrorists' success in persuading Westerners that the U.S.-led wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are part of a crusade against Islam. In his remarks at Fallon he did not offer any new examples of media manipulation; he put unusual emphasis, however, on the negative impact it is having on Americans in an era of 24-hour news.

    "The enemy is so much better at communicating," he added. "I wish we were better at countering that because the constant drumbeat of things they say _ all of which are not true _ is harmful. It's cumulative. And it does weaken people's will and lessen their determination, and raise questions in their minds as to whether the cost is worth it," he said alluding to Americans and other Westerners.

    Rumsfeld flew to Fallon on Monday from Fairbanks, Alaska, where he spent the weekend meeting with families of soldiers deployed in Iraq. He also visited a missile defense site at Ft. Greely and met Sunday with Russian Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov to discuss Iraq and other issues.

    Vice President Dick Cheney addressed the VFW convention in Reno on Monday morning. He asserted to the veterans that policies initiated by the Bush administration are the reason the United States hasn't been attacked since the Sept. 11 terrorist strikes five years ago.

    Cheney defended the Iraq war as necessary in the overall battle against terrorism and reiterated the administration's position that U.S. troops would not withdraw until Iraqi forces were able to maintain order and stability.
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    Ugh, this makes me sick. The only one who are falling for lies are the people who keep voting for Bush.

    Yes, Donald, the whole world is lying and the Bush administration is true and honest.
    Sad thing is, some people are going to fall for this 'dirty, lying arabs" line.

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    Ok, does he mean that the American troops shouldn't be held to a high standard of conduct? And does he mean that U.S. troops aren't responsible for any number of civilian deaths? Ok, Rummy, time to take your meds.
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    I hate Rumsfeld proably more than I hate Dumbya. I would LOVE to see the man tortured, hang Christmas lights from his testicles while he's tied to a pole while Hurricane Ernesto's flogging rains and thunders wash over him.

    And this coming from a basically non-violent person.
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    I guess our boys are all angels. Anyone who has been in the military and especially wartime knows that is a bunch of crap. My dad was in WW2 and had terrible stories about what the allied troops did. It is always the same. These men are human under extreme and unusual circumstances. They sometimes do things they would never do at home. No excuse of course, just an explanation. However, that being said, they still need to be punished. It is not the media punishing them, but the military themselves.
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