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Old July 22nd, 2006, 11:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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If only Clinton would have done something more...


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After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, which killed six and injured 1,000, President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five U.S. military personnel, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 U.S. military personnel, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 1998 bombing of U.S. embassies in Africa, which killed 224 and injured 5,000, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured 39 U.S. sailors, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

Perhaps if Clinton had kept his promises, over 3,000 people would be alive today.



In 1996 the government of Sudan had Osama bin Laden in their custody and offered to hand him over to the United States. Bill Clinton and his liberal cohorts elected not to take the Sudanese up on their offer. Why? Because they couldn't figure out a legal means of trying him! But Clinton sure knew how to argue the meaning of is!




Everything was more important than fighting terrorism. Political correctness, civil liberties concerns, fear of offending the administration's supporters, Janet Reno's objections, considerations of cost, worries about racial profiling and, in the second term, surviving impeachment, all came before fighting terrorism.

- Dick Morris, New York Post, Jan. 2, 2002



This is a soul so small God Himself cannot perceive it without a magnifying glass.

- Deb Weiss, Drudge Report, October 16, 2001

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Old July 22nd, 2006, 11:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Uh, your sources are a little one-sided. Clinton wasn't perfect by a long shot, but his sex life has zip to do with this.

And Bush et al knew that a terrorist attack was imminent because that's what the CIA told them point blank and they chose to ignore it. Then their mantra after 9/11 was: who could have predicted this? Hmm...maybe the CIA, you numbskulls. But hey, they wouldn't want to upset their Saudi pals who they flew out of the U.S. immediately after 9/11. Bush and Cheney didn't have time to talk to the American people during a huge crisis, but they always have time for their oil buddies.
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Old July 22nd, 2006, 11:06 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Granted the site is one-sided, but I was surprised to read how many attacks that took place during Clinton's years in office. I remember them all, but I hadn't realized until I saw them all listed together.

If only he had been more aggressive, perhaps we wouldn't be in the boat we are in today.
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Possibly, but it was Bush, Sr. who should take the biggest hit of all for cozying up to Saddam and the Saudis in the first place.
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Old July 23rd, 2006, 07:49 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Where do we begin with G.W's promises and lies.
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Old July 23rd, 2006, 02:38 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Where do we begin with G.W's promises and lies.
that is too simplistic. to try and blame one president for the terrorist problem isn't honest. this problem has been around since at least Jimmy Carter's presidency, or even longer if one looks at the terrorist acts in the late 60s in the middle east.

The policy failures are on-going irregardless of who has been in office.
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Old July 23rd, 2006, 03:17 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Yes, but the current administration has made it much, much worse.
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Old July 23rd, 2006, 03:45 PM   #8 (permalink)
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You know, Bill Clinton was villified for 'wagging the dog' not long after Monicagate. He authorized strikes on terrorist training facilities. Strikes were launched, for the life of me I can't remember which country, but they tried to say they were plants that produced medicines. Bull. Had he been able to carry out his job without the likes of Newt and co. trying to say he was covering something up, maybe he could have done something more.

There were also major problems within the CIA. There was an entire task force set up to monitor Osama. They were blown off by some of the top ranking officials in the company. Unfortunately, the man who headed that task force ended up taking a civilian job in the WTC and lost his life.

But if you really want to talk about doing more.... What about the Mujahadin (sp). Where did they get the majority of their funding. Good ole Ronnie so wanted to rid the world of the scourge of communism that he armed anyone who opposed the Soviet Union without considering the long term consequences.... If you want to pass blame, go to the root...
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I think in part, the problem has recently gotten worse because the terrorist now have the strength in numbers and cash. facilitated by easy communication due to the internet.

I think the problem was a long time coming and now it is rearing its ugly head. the only way to stop it is to destroy it utterly.
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You know, Bill Clinton was villified for 'wagging the dog' not long after Monicagate. He authorized strikes on terrorist training facilities. Strikes were launched, for the life of me I can't remember which country, but they tried to say they were plants that produced medicines. Bull. Had he been able to carry out his job without the likes of Newt and co. trying to say he was covering something up, maybe he could have done something more.
The strikes were against Iraq. Do you remember the outcry and photographs of the factory that supposedly supplied most of the baby formula for Iraq being blown to smithereens because it was suspected of being a chemical weapons manufactor facility? That occured under Clinton's watch along with the severe financial sanctions against Iraq throughout the entire eight years of his presidency. They were under some very harsh trade restrictions, once we did an oil for food/medicine humanitarian aid exchange with them because in the eyes of the world the trade sanctions were unfair.
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to try and blame one president for the terrorist problem isn't honest.
You just tried.
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Old July 27th, 2006, 12:19 PM   #12 (permalink)
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The strikes were against Iraq. Do you remember the outcry and photographs of the factory that supposedly supplied most of the baby formula for Iraq being blown to smithereens because it was suspected of being a chemical weapons manufactor facility? That occured under Clinton's watch along with the severe financial sanctions against Iraq throughout the entire eight years of his presidency. They were under some very harsh trade restrictions, once we did an oil for food/medicine humanitarian aid exchange with them because in the eyes of the world the trade sanctions were unfair.
The baby formula thing in Iraq was in the Gulf War..Clinton hit the pharmaceutical plant in Sudan in 98 and that was the thing that got the press..destroying half of the drug-making capacity, etc. But I agree with the general point that whenever Clinton did anything he got hell for it.


*look at this 1998 article below as an example*

"The Sudan-Afghanistan attack:
Clinton uses cruise missiles to placate political opponents
By the Editorial Board

22 August 1998

As dawn broke on Friday in Sudan and Afghanistan the extent of the damage inflicted by the previous day's US bombing became known. Twenty people were killed in Afghanistan. More than a dozen were wounded in the wreckage of the pharmaceutical plant targeted in the Sudanese capital of Khartoum.

Notwithstanding White House claims to the contrary, it is obvious that the military strikes were undertaken not to counter an unspecified terrorist threat to the United States, but to stave off the more immediate danger of a political collapse of the Clinton administration. The attacks were intended to send a message, not so much to Osama bin Laden--the latest in a long line of bogeymen invoked by US governments--but
rather to the powerful right-wing faction of the ruling elite which has spearheaded the attack on Clinton..."

http://www.wsws.org/news/1998/aug1998/bomb-a22.shtml


^^yeah right..."...Osama bin Laden--the latest in a long line of bogeymen invoked by US governments-.."
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