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    Angry Democrats cannibalize each other and wimp out: ad pulled from net

    For fucks sake...

    ROCK HILL, S.C. - Democrats pulled an Internet ad that showed flag-draped coffins Friday after Republicans and at least two Democrats demanded it be taken down on grounds the image was insensitive and not fit for a political commercial.

    The ad by the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee called for a "new direction" and displayed a staccato of images, including war scenes, pollution and breached levees as well as a photograph of former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay doctored to look like a police mug shot.

    The campaign committee replaced the ad with a radio commercial that targets Rep. John Hostetler, R-Ind., for opposing an increase in the minimum wage. Democrats have made a minimum wage increase a central theme of this year's election.

    Democrats had featured the video ad for nearly two weeks on the DCCC Web site where it had gone largely unnoticed until Republicans began objecting to it this week. On Thursday, more than a dozen Republicans, many with military backgrounds, called on DCCC Chairman Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill., to apologize. Democratic Reps. John Spratt of South Carolina and Chet Edwards of Texas asked Emanuel to pull or alter the ad.

    "We're moving to another major effort that we're highlighting on our Web site," DCCC spokesman Bill Burton said.

    In South Carolina, Spratt's Republican challenger, state Rep. Ralph Norman, commended the removal. It was "the right thing to do for the state, country and especially the brave men and women who serve in our military," said Norman's spokesman, Nathan Hollifield.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060715/...emocratic_ad_1
    Yeah, showing the impact of war to the populace does such a disservice to the ones DYING for said populace.

    This party is fucking retarded. Spineless, eager to stab each other in the back, no consensus at all, no message.

    Fuck the democrats, bunch of mentally handicapped pussies.
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    Default Re: Democrats cannibalize each other and wimp out: ad pulled from net

    I've been ready for a 3rd party or an Independent to take a major election for years. Otherwise it's just the usual case of voting for the lesser of two evils.
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    Like south park put it:

    I'm all for voting, but what's the point if your only choices are:

    1) a giant douche



    2) and a turd sandwich?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok
    Like south park put it:

    "I'm all for voting, but what's the point if your only choices are a giant douche and a turd sandwich?"
    Amen sistah! Time for a legitimate third party not filled with pussies or retards.

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    ROCK HILL, S.C. - Democrats pulled an Internet ad that showed flag-draped coffins Friday after Republicans and at least two Democrats demanded it be taken down on grounds the image was insensitive and not fit for a political commercial.
    I have to agree. It's trotting out the dead and parading them around. They may as well use the still images of people jumping to their deaths from the Twin Towers as they burned.

    I found that Fred Astaire vacuum commercial equally offensive. Did anybody ask him if he wanted to hock vacuums? Probably not. Did anybody ask the bodies in the coffins if they wanted to be used as political propoganda? Probably not. I'm sure some of the dead were Repugs, too. You think they'd approve their flag-draped casket in a Demo ad? Probably not. But I'm just speculating...

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    Quote Originally Posted by WickedHo
    I have to agree. It's trotting out the dead and parading them around. They may as well use the still images of people jumping to their deaths from the Twin Towers as they burned.

    I found that Fred Astaire vacuum commercial equally offensive. Did anybody ask him if he wanted to hock vacuums? Probably not. Did anybody ask the bodies in the coffins if they wanted to be used as political propoganda? Probably not. I'm sure some of the dead were Repugs, too. You think they'd approve their flag-draped casket in a Demo ad? Probably not. But I'm just speculating...

    As offensive as all those great John Lennon/Beatles songs being used to flog everything from cars to shoes to capitalist pig banks. If John Lennon had a grave he'd be turning in it right now.

    But the one that pisses me off the most are the pro lifers toting huge graphic blowups of aborted babies. For shame!

    Using the dead to promote something is the ultimate in tasteless, from politics to commercialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UndercoverGator
    Using the dead to promote something is the ultimate in tasteless, from politics to commercialism.
    Well-said. Can you believe even Mr. Holyman Sting did a Jaguar commercial? For shame, indeed! But... well, he's not dead. Just his talent.

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    Give me a break, the ad was completely tasteful. It showed:

    1) unidentified caskets with flags on them. A reality of war that nobody back home sees unless its one of their relatives.

    2) Unidentified soldier paying respects to a fallen comrade, also unidentified.

    There was nothing tasteless about it. it showed the consequences of war. consequences brought on in a war of choice by politicians in power who seem to be abdicating all responsibility for it.

    They showed new Orleans under water, and the dome where a number of people died. That was a consequence of inaction by the Bush cabal, is that also tasteless or reality on a level that people NEED to see?
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    They showed new Orleans under water, and the dome where a number of people died. That was a consequence of inaction by the Bush cabal, is that also tasteless or reality on a level that people NEED to see?
    I think that was a little bit different because the people needed to see that to realize just how badly the Bush crowd had lost control and no one was really profiting from the images.

    My main objection to showing soldiers coffins is that I feel for the families. The other stuff I mentioned there was usually a financial motive attached.

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    What families? Can the families identify which coffin belongs to THEIR kid? No, hence they are unidentified.

    I think that was a little bit different because the people needed to see that to realize just how badly the Bush crowd
    ... and Iraq is under control? Or has ever been? I fail to see the difference.
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    Point taken, you're right..

    but I still abhor the other stuff.

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    Default Re: Democrats cannibalize each other and wimp out: ad pulled from net

    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok
    Give me a break, the ad was completely tasteful. It showed:

    1) unidentified caskets with flags on them. A reality of war that nobody back home sees unless its one of their relatives.
    I hear ya, Grimm, but it's still gratuitous. In my opinion. It's not the image itself, it's the intent of the image being used. I take offense to that, profiting off of death and misery. Personally, I don't need to see hundreds (thousands) of coffins to be convinced of the futility of this war (any war, really). Just as much as I don't need pro-life zealots showing me sucked-out fetuses to know that abortion is messy and gross.

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    You don't but lots of other people do. Showing the back of a soldier greiving and nameless coffins is a little different than gratuitous blood, gore and shock value.
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    Meh, it's still shock value. But you're right, some people need to be slapped into reality. It just depresses and enrages me, all those coffins. It doesn't make me want to join up with the Democrats. It makes me want to revolt and behave violently.

    Here's the thing, though: I wouldn't be offended by reputable news sources (tv, magazine, paper) using the image to report facts, not garner emotional sympathy for one political party or another.

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    I think the context in which it was used was appropriate, along with the other images.

    They were all examples and results of how the repukes have steered the US down the wrong path.

    There's something different between THAT context, and say... using 9/11 footage to SCARE people into voting for you.
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