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    (CBS) At a church in Washington, hundreds of committed Christians met recently and tried to map out a strategy to get their values into the political debate.

    But these are not the conservative Christian values which have been so influential lately. This is the religious left.

    "Jesus called us to love our neighbor, love our enemy, care for the poor, care for the outcast, and that's really the moral core of where we think the nation ought to go," Dr. Bob Edgar, General Secretary of the National Council of Churches told CBS News correspondent Russ Mitchell.

    The National Council of Churches represents about 50 million Christians in America — the majority of them mainline Protestants.

    "Jesus never said one word about homosexuality, never said one word about civil marriage or abortion," Edgar said.

    He calls this movement the "center-left" — and it's seeking the same political muscle as the conservative Christians, a group with a strong power base in the huge Evangelical churches of the South.

    But the left has its own Evangelical leaders, such as the Rev. Tony Campolo.

    "We are furious that the religious right has made Jesus into a Republican. That's idolatry," Campolo said. "To recreate Jesus in your own image rather than allowing yourself to be created in Jesus' image is what's wrong with politics."

    The Christian left is focusing on:

    Fighting poverty

    Protecting the environment

    Ending the war in Iraq

    "Right now the war in Iraq costs us $1 billion per week," said Rev. Jim Wallis, a Christian activist. "And we can't get $5 billion over ten years for child care in this country?"

    To try to attract young voters and the attention of politicians who want their votes, leaders of the religious left are promoting issues like raising the minimum wage.

    "Nine million families are working full time," Wallis said. "Working hard full time, responsibly, and not making it."

    Three decades ago liberal religious leaders had a powerful influence on politics.

    In the 1960s and 70s they led demonstrations against civil rights abuses and the war in Vietnam. But when those battles were over, the movement seemed to lose energy, while the Christian right had become well organized and committed to having its voice and concerns heard.

    After years of sitting on the sidelines, it will take more than meetings and talking points to make the liberals into a political power again.

    "The Christian right has a ground game," said Mark Silk of Trinity College's religious studies department. "Thus far the Christian left mainly has an air game: they want to throw positions, they want to talk to the media, but do they have the networks in place on the ground to get people out to vote?"

    So, it remains to be seen whether there's any action behind the words. But there's no doubt they're on a mission.

    "I've watched a generation die. And I watched them shift from idealism to a 'me' generation that was only orientated to consumerism and it hurt, and I wondered whether we ever would come back." Campolo said. "But the pendulum is swinging."

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n1786860.shtml
    Could it be that an army of the religious and SANE is stomping onto the battlefield in the culture wars?

    per AMERICAblog:

    I'm not convinced the religious left will ever get its act together. They just don't seem to know politics, or public relations, nor are they angry enough to be inspired enough to make a difference (our guys, silly people that they are, actually buy into all that Biblical stuff about loving thy neighbor - the religious right, on the other hand, has ignored all that "love" stuff in the Bible). The most important trait the religious right has is its anger. It's hatred. I'm not saying it's a good thing, but it's what motivates all the religious right leaders and organizations, pure unadulterated hate. And it's a lot easier for them to get riled up to do something when they hate, than for our religious leaders to get motivated to do something simply because they love.

    Love is still better than hate. But in politics, it's more often hate than love that gets the leaders and the followers motivated.

    Isn't that sad.
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    Well how interesting. Oh, & I can't resist pointing this out:

    "Jesus never said one word about homosexuality, never said one word about civil marriage or abortion," Edgar said.
    I expressed a very similar sentiment yesterday in our abortion debate, as a reason why I do NOT NOT NOT bring religion into discussions on that topic.

    Anywho, I hope this movement gains momentum. It's heartening, actually. Even in my own brain, if you say the word "Christian" I instantly think of my cousin & her hubby & kids, all with poofy hair, & the females wearing shin-length bibbed dresses & gargantuan hair bows, spouting drivel about traditional family values and the abomination of the homosexual lifestyle. (You know, the "lifestyle" where they run about with limp wrists, swinging from chandeliers, screwing each other like crazy bunnies & teaching children how to be teh ghey.)
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    I expressed a very similar sentiment yesterday in our abortion debate, as a reason why I do NOT NOT NOT bring religion into discussions on that topic.
    I still haven't gone digging, fear not
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    Dig away. You will have SUCH fun perusing all my wise & witty postings. Oh, the joyous hours that lay before you....
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    I can think of worse things to dig through.. hmmm.. pile of feces with broken hypodermic needles... or JungleMonkey's posts.

    .... feces & hypo's... Junglemonkey's posts...
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    Sounds like you can't decide, there
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    It's something of a battle, yes. I can't quite figure out which would leave me feeling less dirty.
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    Anywho, I hope this movement gains momentum. It's heartening, actually. Even in my own brain, if you say the word "Christian" I instantly think of my cousin & her hubby & kids, all with poofy hair, & the females wearing shin-length bibbed dresses & gargantuan hair bows, spouting drivel about traditional family values and the abomination of the homosexual lifestyle. (You know, the "lifestyle" where they run about with limp wrists, swinging from chandeliers, screwing each other like crazy bunnies & teaching children how to be teh ghey.)
    Are you talking about those freaky Duggar(sp?) people? Ya know the ones from that 14 Children show? I hope you're not really related to them freaks. heh

    Anyway, I'm glad that the religious left is finally starting to get into the public arena. Chirstianity has been hijacked by the religous right-wing for so long, and the thing is, those freaks are not even a majority in the Christian faith. There just the loudest (and stupidest).

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    No, they're not the Duggars, they're about 12 children short. Other than that, they're extremely similar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Authority
    Are you talking about those freaky Duggar(sp?) people? Ya know the ones from that 14 Children show? I hope you're not really related to them freaks. heh

    Anyway, I'm glad that the religious left is finally starting to get into the public arena. Chirstianity has been hijacked by the religous right-wing for so long, and the thing is, those freaks are not even a majority in the Christian faith. There just the loudest (and stupidest).
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