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    I'm proud to call myself a liberal and 99.9 per cent of everything Delphinium posted in the first post is a complete distortion and exaggeration, and even she knows that. The first reason speaks for itself and the rest carry on the sorry state of misrepresentation of the way the majority of liberals -- appparently a label anyone who doesn't agree with Delphinium is bound to wear -- think.

    NEWSFLASH: Just like neo-conservatives, liberals do not all think in lockstep.

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    You have to believe that businesses create oppression and governments create prosperity


    Isn't this communism rather than liberalism? How can these two different political positions get confused?

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    Easily it seems by people who don't know, or want to know, the difference.
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    To be clear, I don't even agree with the antagonizing other people do either. I think a debate forum should try it's hardest to avoid the ad hominems and such. If Grimm and friends jumped off a bridge, would you? I think not.

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    If I had the time and energy like someone we know, I'd go thru each and every one of the 20 listed and tear it all apart with logic and evidence... I only did one cuz I'm lazy and I'm not that smart

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    I don't mind the post. I agree that it's in line with some stuff that has been posted about neo-cons in the past, and Delphinium knows she's outnumbered, so even if she's just looking for a debate, it's probably brave of her to do so.

    That said, I'm probably one of the most liberal people I know (more socialist than most people I know, though I also believe strongly in private enterprise). And truthfully, I hardly fit any of those items. If that's the criteria, then I must be pretty damn conservative!

    Delph, I want to let you know that if that is what more conservative people honestly think liberalism is, they've simply got it wrong. I'm proud of all my beliefs and would never hide them (and obvsiously not on this forum ) so I hope you can take that to heart. I do not believe most of those things, certainly not as they're stated (and I guarantee you I am ultra-left-wing). I genuinely hope that conservatives see this list as the gross exaggeration that it is, not because I'm afraid to defend my beliefs or offended by a joke, but because it would go a long way towards realizing we're really not so different.

    There are definitely differences between liberals and conservatives (and there are those in the middle as well), but they are not these differences. I would hope that it is not misconceptions like these that we are always fighting over.
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    ^^Very well said, Tati. You make some good points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moomies View Post
    If I had the time and energy like someone we know, I'd go thru each and every one of the 20 listed and tear it all apart with logic and evidence... I only did one cuz I'm lazy and I'm not that smart

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    Ok I was bored , 20 ways to figure out if you are a kooky conservative.....

    1.You pick and choose parts of the Bible that fits your agenda and believe there are only two types of Americans, Cons and Libs.
    2. You're Pro-Fetus . However, once the kid is born, screw it, it's on it's own. Being a newborn is no excuse-get a job.
    3. 2nd amend. gives you the right to own machine guns, grenades and bombs without restrictions and without background checks.
    4. The US can force the world to do what we want, because we have bigger bombs and God's on our side.
    5. You believe we are fighting the terrorists in Iraq so we don't fight them here in our streets.
    6. You are boycotting French products and believe it's been devasting to France's economy.
    7. You believe that the AIDS is God's punishment for an immoral lifestyle.
    8. You have plastic and duct tape on your windows.
    9. You're convinced that a muslim is trying to cut your head off.
    10. You believe there is a liberal conspiracy in the media, hollywood and in the universities.
    11. You believe George Bush will be remembered as one of the greatest Presidents in history and Clinton, the worse.
    12. Because of "Path to 9/11" the truth is finally out, Clinton was responsibile for 9/11.
    13. You use a copy of the Constitution as toilet paper.
    14.You believe you are wealthy and the "libs" want your money but statistically you are poor.
    15. The Dems are the REAL racist and black people are too stupid to realize it.
    16. Ann Coultier, Hannity,Rush, Ingrams,O'Reilly, etc. are informative journalists.
    17. Having a cheap sticker made in China stuck on your car makes you more more patriotic than those who do not.
    18. You complain about social programs but not corporate welfare.
    19. All city people are elitist and live in ghettos.
    20. George Bush has made us more respected in the world and has been effective with the "War on Terror".


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    Bravo! I guess Delphinium will find that hilarious, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScooBeth View Post
    Aw, how sweet, with all that sugary mushy winking at our beloved Mooms.


    I think Sojita is absolutely right, & that much worse (i.e., inflammatory) posts have floated through these hallowed halls. If everybody thought the same around here, it would be boring, indeed.
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    Liberals todays are so Far LEFT and foolish, it is a shame that LIBERAL has become a dirty word. If JFK were alove today, he would be a conservative.
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    I think people make liberals out to be SO FAR LEFT, more left than they really are.

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    Absolutely. It's all about misrepresentation.
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    Most liberals in the States would be considered conservatives in Canada. Just something to think about.

    Quote Originally Posted by moomies View Post
    If I had the time and energy like someone we know, I'd go thru each and every one of the 20 listed and tear it all apart with logic and evidence... I only did one cuz I'm lazy and I'm not that smart
    I really like people who are self-deprecating and witty. It's so much more interesting than being offensive and offended because you don't have the smarts or imagination to react/behave in any other way.

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