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    U.S. Ban Sets Conditions for Attack, Venezuela Says (Update2)

    May 16 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. decision to stop all commercial arms sales to Venezuela is intended to ``prepare the political conditions'' for an attack on the South American country, Foreign Minister Ali Rodriguez said.

    The U.S. government climbed to ``new heights of cynicism and shamelessness'' with its decision to cut arms sales, saying President Hugo Chavez isn't doing enough to support its war on terrorism, Rodriguez said in a statement sent by e-mail.

    ``Behind its despicable accusations is a useless campaign of shame designed to isolate Venezuela, destabilize its democratic government and prepare the political conditions for an attack,'' Rodriguez said. ``They have failed and will continue to fail.''

    Venezuelan Vice President Jose Vicente Rangel also said in a statement that the ban would have no effect as the South American country doesn't want U.S. arms.

    The sanctions, which go into effect Oct. 1, threaten to worsen relations between the U.S. and Venezuela, among its top four oil suppliers. Chavez, 51, yesterday again accused the U.S. of seeking to remove him from office, including planning for a possible invasion.

    U.S. officials, including Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, last year said that Chavez poses a threat to stability in the Western Hemisphere.

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    Venezuela may also sell its fleet of 21 F-16s it acquired more than two decades ago to Iran, the Associated Press reported, citing General Alberto Muller, a senior Chavez adviser.

    No further information was available. Calls to Venezuela's defense ministry's press office weren't answered.

    State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said any sale would be illegal.

    ``Any time you have the sale of U.S. military equipment to a foreign government, there are clauses and there are agreements that are signed,'' McCormack said a press briefing in Washington. ``And part of those agreements are that, without the written consent of the United States, you can't transfer these defense articles, and in this case F-16s, to a third country.''

    The South American country, the world's fifth-largest oil exporter, has previously threatened to sell its F-16s unless it can buy spare parts freely from the U.S. Chavez last year said he was considering selling or giving the planes to China or Cuba.

    Venezuela may also seek to buy fighters from Russia to replace the F-16's, Chavez said.

    ``They just found themselves on the list of countries not cooperating with the U.S. terrorism efforts,'' McCormack said. ``I'm not sure that they want to add to that list breaking international agreements.''

    The U.S. ``wants to handicap our defenses,'' Rodriguez said. ``That is why it prohibits the sale of arms and corresponding services.'' Rodriguez also said the U.S. had a double standard on terrorism, especially as it hasn't extradited Luis Posada Carriles to Venezuela.

    Venezuela wants to try Posada Carriles for his role in the 1976 bombing of a Cuban airliner that killed 73 people.
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    Well, they do have the cheapest gas prices in the world. I don't doubt that Dubya has this country on his 'kick their ass grab their gas' list.

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    Venezuela already sell the US 25% of the oil they consume
    I am from the American CIA and I have a radio in my head. I am going to kill you.

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    they're probably not that far off; Bush can't stand Chavez and his public statements.

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    Nostradamus predicted that world war 3 would start soon and that the next antichrist is named Mabus or something along those lines

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    I seriously doubt Bush will invade Venezula. Not with troops in Afganistan, Iraq, United Arab Emirites, Kuwait, Tijikistan, Azerbizan, North Eastern Africa, Korea, et al. The American militiary is spread way too thin. Rumsfeld has already moved large numbers of troops from Europe and Asia to the Middle East and there is still not enough.

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    he already tried to take over the govt; you can see all about it in a little film called; "the revolution will not be televised".

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    I don't think Bush will invade Venezuela either but I saw a anti-US protest in Venezuela on the news so ppl seemed to seriously believe there that the US might attack.

    If you think it's crazy, you ain't seen a thing. Just wait until we're goin down in flames.

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    I saw that protest too. The peple there really do seem threatened by the US govt.

    Just what our country needs, more countries afraid of us. Some foreign policy (or lack therof) ya got there Bush.

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    As much as I think our darling prez is a few sandwiches short of a basket, I don't think he is stupid enough to attack Venezuela.

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    There was already an attempted coup d'etat in 2002; it failed.
    Those of us who've read a bit about the CIA's secret wars in
    South America have no trouble believing that Bushco was behind that coup d'etat, as they have been with
    dozens, all over South America, for at least a century.

    That coup was repulsed by a genuine popular uprising -- which is
    also the reason was Castro was not overthrown by the Bay of
    Pigs invasion: the invading US forces in both cases were not
    "greeted as liberators."

    What amazed me is that some British journos claim Chavez is using
    oil profits to educate huge numbers of people and put them
    through university.


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    Let's see Exxon do that.

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    I do not disagree that the CIA has been everywhere trying to stir up revolutions and uprisings, but it is an entirely different proposition for the USA to go and attack Venezuela outright.

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    ^^ When they cannot or dare not attack outright, they send
    CIA advisors in, covertly, to stir up trouble and to provide arms
    to dictators so that they can do the overthrow themselves.
    It's less conspicuous than an invasion and less costly in terms
    of American lives.

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    They did it all in the 70's and 80's in Central america.. hello, noriega..
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    Quote Originally Posted by ourmaninBusan
    There was already an attempted coup d'etat in 2002; it failed.
    Those of us who've read a bit about
    Did you read "Confessions of an Economic Hitman", Ourman? It's very telling about how many different countries our nation had completely farked over and ruined the economies and environments of. The CIA has their fingers in many pies and it's only a miracle that 9/11 didn't happen sooner.

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    ^^ When they cannot or dare not attack outright, they send
    CIA advisors in, covertly, to stir up trouble and to provide arms
    to dictators so that they can do the overthrow themselves.
    It's less conspicuous than an invasion and less costly in terms
    of American lives.
    Completely agree that the CIA will go in to take over in a "covert" way to create chaos...though everyone seems to find out about all their heinous deeds anyway.

    Call me optimistic, but I do not think the US will outright invade Venezuela...but that's not to say that there isn't a legion of CIA there right now trying destabilize the country.

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