Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 30

Thread: Bush, Cheney, DeLay, etc. responsible for the clusterfuck that is the Gulf Oil Spill?

  1. #1
    Friend of Gossip Rocks! buttmunch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Uranus
    Posts
    31,884

    Default Bush, Cheney, DeLay, etc. responsible for the clusterfuck that is the Gulf Oil Spill?

    Does everyone remember Dick Cheney's "National Energy Task Force"? The one where meetings were held in secret, and energy policy was set by the foxes in charge of the henhouse? Yeah, I figured you might.

    The Center for American Progress has connected the dots between this task force, the Bush Administration energy policies, and Tom DeLay's leadership in the House of Representatives to paint a straight line right back to Cheney & Co. I don't agree with the conclusion of "Cheney's Katrina", so how about we call it "Cheney's Oil Apocalypse" instead?

    Setting the stage - May, 2001

    Cheney's secret task force releases a 170-page harbinger of death under the title "National Energy Policy" (PDF). One of the pillars of their report is California's supposed energy crisis, helped along by the likes of Enron.

    In Chapter Five, several recommendations for increasing domestic energy supplies are made, including:

    The NEPD Group recommends that the President direct the Secretary of the Interior to consider economic incentives for environmentally sound offshore oil and gas development where warranted by specific circumstances: explore opportunities for royalty reductions, consistent with ensuring a fair return to the public where warranted for enhanced oil and gas recovery; for reduction of risk associated with production in frontier areas or deep gas formations; and for development of small fields that would otherwise be uneconomic.
    The NEPD Group recommends that the President direct the Secretaries of Commerce and Interior to re-examine the current federal legal and policy regime (statutes, regulations, and Executive Orders) to determine if changes are needed regarding energy-related activi- ties and the siting of energy facilities in the coastal zone and on the Outer Continental Shelf (OCS).
    The NEPD Group recommends that the President direct the Secretary of the Interior continue OCS oil and gas leasing and approval of exploration and development plans on predictable schedules.
    Act One - The Administration complies

    First, the SAFE Act is introduced in the House in 2001. It provides for the following (quotes from CAP post):

    Taxpayer funds to reimburse oil companies for the costs of complying with the National Environmental Policy Act (Sec. 6234)
    A suspension of royalties on tens of millions of barrels of oil produced in the Gulf of Mexico—especially from deepwater wells like the one now spewing into the gulf (Sec. 6202)
    Opening the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to drilling—with expedited leasing, limited judicial review, and lip service to environmental concerns (Div. F, Title V)
    Check off one set of recommendations, though it took Cheney and Big Oil until 2003 to get it to a conference committee. Just after the midterms, Republicans guided the bill through the House, with DeLay twisting arms as needed. With Democrats safely in the minority, the conference committee was able to exempt all oil and gas construction activities from the Clean Water Act, force BLM lease approvals within 10 days, grant unprecedented authority to the Department of Interior to fast-track permits, and allocate $2 billion for oil companies to drill in ultra deepwater areas.

    A filibuster in the Senate stopped it from becoming law. Then.

    Act Two - If at first you don't succeed, try, try again...

    In 2004 a second legislative assault on our coastlines was mounted. This time Rep. Joe Barton (R-TX) worked with DeLay to get a bill through the House with the assistance of oilman-turned-lobbyist Andrew Lundquist and Abramoff crony Stephen Griles.

    CAP reports:

    One of the worst elements of what has come to be known as the “Dick Cheney energy bill” had a direct role in eliminating the kind of regulatory oversight that may have prevented the blowout of BP’s Mississippi Canyon 252 well on April 20 of this year. Section 390 of the legislation dramatically expanded the circumstance under which drilling operations could forego environmental reviews and be approved almost immediately under so-called “categorical exclusions” from the National Environmental Policy Act.

    There you go. Fast-track approvals by waiving environmental reviews and granting "categorical exclusions". In other words, tell the oil companies like BP that it's totally okay to ride their iron horses out to the wild coastal frontier without regard for safety or environmental damage.

    Worth noting: BP liked those categorical exclusions so much they were lobbying as late as April of this year for more of them.

    Other gifts to the oil industry included in the Cheney Energy Bill:

    Permanent permit exemptions granted to all oil and gas construction activities for roads, drill pads, pipeline corridors, refineries and compressor stations required under the Clean Water Act.
    Exempted oil companies from paying royalties on oil produced from deepwater wells.
    Created a special exception to the Safe Drinking Water Act for the "hydraulic fracturing process". As CAP notes, this process was invented by Halliburton.
    Mandated a federally-funded study to identify ways that legislation, regulations and local zoning laws impeded development of existing leases and unexplored oil reserves.
    Limited states' voice with regard to projects affecting their coastlines. This also included limiting court action with respect to offshore oil development.
    Reinstated lapsed leases due to nonpayment of royalties and rents.
    Transferred mineral rights of national seashores to private ownership or Texas state ownership in order to allow oil companies to drill under them.
    Act Three - It is finished

    On August 8, 2005, George W. Bush signed the Energy Policy Act of 2005 into law.

    On October 22, 2007 Randall B. Luthi, Wyoming attorney, Cheney cohort and new director of MMS signed a "Finding of No New Significant Impact" (PDF) with regard to Lease Sale 206, also known as the Deepwater Horizon. This finding was the last barrier for BP to cross before plunging equipment 5000 feet under the ocean's surface, using Halliburton fracture techniques to open the well, and beginning the flow of oil which ends as an environmental and economic disaster to Gulf inhabitants. No significant impact, indeed.

    Stay tuned for scenes from next year

    It's unclear how the Cheney Energy Act will play out in the legal morass yet to come. What we should expect are many challenges by BP lawyers to any effort to claim damages under the Clean Water Act (given the exemptions) as well as challenges for liability beyond cleaning up the spill.

    But whatever happens, dear viewers, know this: The responsible parties are George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Joe Barton, and Tom DeLay.

    Repeat. Lather. Rinse. Repeat. Get the word out. Put the spotlight on the real villains.How George Bush, Joe Barton, Dick Cheney and Tom DeLay Caused the Gulf Oil Spill and Made Sure BP Will Never Be Held Accountable | Crooks and Liars

    This is what happens when people support complete, or even partial, deregulation of certain industries. You cannot trust these people to behave in an honourable manner. Fuck BP and fuck the Bush administration. Thanks for leaving us with loads to clean up, not least the oil spill.
    'Those who sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.' Ben Franklin

    "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross."
    --Sinclair Lewis

  2. #2
    Elite Member
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Posts
    4,250

    Default

    Absolutely. This is what Cheney and Bush created.
    Tea baggers want to fight the Man because the Man doesn't look like them.

  3. #3
    Elite Member Mel1973's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Cuntopia
    Posts
    42,983

    Default

    omg... tell me, when does Obama get credit for anything? oh, he's got too much on his plate to worry about an oil spill that will hopefully only affect repugs....


    Here are some comments from one particular article:
    If Bush is responsible for a terrorist attack that happened 9 months into his presidency, then Obama can be held responsible for an oil spill off of the US coast 16 months into his. He's in charge. HE is the one who said that offshore oil rigs were safe. The buck stops with him.


    And I don't know where I've been or if I've somehow ignored it but ...
    The federal agency responsible for ensuring that the Deepwater Horizon was operating safely before it exploded last month fell well short of its own policy that the rig be inspected at least once per month, an Associated Press investigation shows.

    In fact, the agency's inspection frequency on the Deepwater Horizon fell dramatically over the past five years, according to federal Minerals Management Service records. The rig blew up April 20, killing 11 people before sinking and triggering a massive oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

    Since January 2005, inspectors issued just one minor infraction for the rig. That strong track record led the agency last year to herald the Deepwater Horizon as an industry model for safety.
    Last edited by Mel1973; June 8th, 2010 at 07:34 AM.
    Kill him.
    Kill her.
    Kill It.
    Kill everything... that IS the solution!
    П(•_•)П
    twitchy molests my signature!

  4. #4
    Elite Member Grimmlok's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    In WhoreLand fucking your MOM
    Posts
    55,359

    Default

    Yawn.

    Obama: "Under current law, the Interior Department has only 30 days to review an exploration plan submitted by an oil company. That leaves no time for the appropriate environmental review. The result is, they're continually waived. And this is just one example of a law that was tailored by the industry to serve their needs instead of the public's."

    Glenn Greenwald responds: "why didn't the Obama administration, whose party controls the Congress, ever ask that the law be amended to provide 60 or 90 days, or however much time is needed to complete the review? Or why didn't Interior officials tell the oil industry that they would refuse to issue these permits until the industry had their lobbyists instruct Congress to change the law to allow for a more reasonable timeframe? Instead, faced with a supposedly impossible-to-meet statutory requirement of conducting environmental reviews, the Interior Department just threw its hands up and circumvented the spirit of the law by oh-so-reluctantly and helplessly handing out exemptions like candy to any oil company that asked? Is that at all believable?"
    And to top it all off:

    "The Obama administration, facing rising anger on the Gulf Coast over the loss of jobs and income from a drilling moratorium, said Monday that it would move quickly to release new safety requirements that would allow the reopening of offshore oil and gas exploration in shallow waters."

    White House Pushes to Clear Way for Oil-Drilling Permits - WSJ.com
    Yeah, I wonder just how tight those safety requirements will be
    I am from the American CIA and I have a radio in my head. I am going to kill you.

  5. #5
    Elite Member Mel1973's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Cuntopia
    Posts
    42,983

    Default

    Couldn't we just plug the hole with democrats? Hillary's ankles should be enough by themselves.

    ETa... some people are crazy... I'm having a field day reading some of these comments over at yahoo....
    Kill him.
    Kill her.
    Kill It.
    Kill everything... that IS the solution!
    П(•_•)П
    twitchy molests my signature!

  6. #6
    Elite Member Grimmlok's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    In WhoreLand fucking your MOM
    Posts
    55,359

    Default

    cut and paste the most hilarious
    I am from the American CIA and I have a radio in my head. I am going to kill you.

  7. #7
    Elite Member Mel1973's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Cuntopia
    Posts
    42,983

    Default

    The oil spill is good. All the dead animals = less farts=less greenhouse gas=Al Gore!

    Hey, this was on Obama's watch not Bush and Congress has been ruled by Dems for 5 years.


    Obama isn't being blamed for the spill but rather for his horribly slow and ineffective "response" the the worst ecological disaster in our country's history. Clearly his administration lacks any sort of leadership and responsibility. You blaming Mr. Bush for an oil rig blowing up 18 months after he left office is simply asinine and shows how foaming-at-the-mouth unstable you extremists on the left are. No, this spill demonstrates how incompetent the current president is, regardless of whether you liked Mr. Bush or not. See you at the polls in November.


    I can't believe you DEMS still blame Bush for everything. Did you know that Obama actually gave this same platform an award for safety last year? Also, if Bush deregulated everything then why are we not drilling on LAND or in shallow water???? It's these intellectually dishonest statements from DEMS that hurt this great nation. (I'm sure the libs don't even call this a great nation.. especially with all the appologizing the president is doing around the world)


    How about we just plug the leak with the money that Wall Street gave Dodd and Obama?


    Let’s just play the previous administration "blame-game" a bit more. Deepwater Horizion was approved for construction in 1998 (Clinton). Began construction in 2000 (Clinton). So the Dems approved the construction plans, safety plans, etc. So using the same excuse Dodd uses for Obama, Bush inherited this rig just like Obama. Have a great vacation Obama while there is work to be done for the people who are losing their livelihood in the Gulf.


    During the Bush administration: 1) the rig was cited 6 times for violations 2) the rig didn't blow up.
    Under the Obama administration: 1) the rig received no citations 2) the rig blew up.

    Boy, that darned Bush sure got us into this mess, didn't he?
    Are liberals genetically incapable of honest evaluation or is it something they have to work at?


    i'll bet ya we keep paying OPEC what ever they want for their oil.Remember Obama's Saudi trip where he was given that huge gold medalion?


    The head marxicrats first reaction was to send lawyers. That’s his mindset, how to blame private industry.


    If sabotage was the reason it blew up,Who had the grestest motive?The tree hugging dirt worshipers that cozy up to our beloved socialist president.
    Kill him.
    Kill her.
    Kill It.
    Kill everything... that IS the solution!
    П(•_•)П
    twitchy molests my signature!

  8. #8
    Elite Member gas_chick's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    43,854

    Default

    How about we blame fucking BP and their horrendously slow response to this or Obama who just ignored the problem until it was bad enough for a photo op. I'm sick of blame being deferred and what's more I really don't give a fuck. Just stop it and clean it the fuck up.

  9. #9
    Elite Member Mel1973's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Cuntopia
    Posts
    42,983

    Default

    So the IRS and these thieves are funded by Tax payers to help them generate money for the Treasury dept. the revenue then gets funneled to the Federal Reserve that in turn gives it to private investors that brought us to the recession, so they can give it back to us with interest via loans! Ok It’s worse than I thought. And to think the agency regulates were the drilling can take place by private investors through tax payer money. But we don’t get any oil revenue for it we get charged for the oil!! So basically our great Capitalist Nation is charging me to be able to help the private sector make money in order to make revenue for treasury, and then charged me for the product I helped produce, GAS and More shoot if that isn’t blackmail I don’t know what is




    It took obummer 8 days to make an announcement that he was sending interior, exterior, team of attorneys, homeland security and swat. EIGHT DAYS it took him to do anything at all. And the FT. Hood masacer it took him two weeks to speak to the American people and families of the victims. TWO WEEKS, and when he did it was a lecture about not jumping to jihad conclusions. obummer doesn't have a clue an anything AMERICAN! The only clues he has it how to destroy America!




    Amazing the Blame Bush syndrome still continues. Did you read the article? Six times during the Bush Administration, this platform was cited. The Obama administration gave them an award. Dems have been in power in congress since 2006. In APRIL 2009 - OBAMA was president, this platform was exempted from an environmental impact study as they determined this scenario was not in the probabilities.

    It isn't Obama's fault, and it isn't Bush's fault. Maybe it is the fault of the inspectors who did not do monthly inspections under both administrations. Maybe it is BP and Transocean's fault that after 6 violations still did not get it right. Maybe because Obama received more money from BP than any other politician, the MMS looked the other way.




    bush got blamed for everything, excpet what he did really do, which is put america to work. bush gave us the lost unemployed numbers since WWII. obama's given us the highest unemployed numbers since the last great depressions in 32. we currently stand at 18% of americans out of work. Okay, some of the other ones are not as funny as this one...




    i dont understand why bush is getting blamed for this i think all you obama bin laden freaks dont want to admit you made a wrong choice. but its realy bp fault you idiot bush bashers




    5 users liked this comment Vote for this comment Vote for this comment 0 users disliked this comment
    skywalkerzmom Mon May 17, 2010 11:26 am PDT Report Abuse
    The comments here, "chickens are coming home to roost", "Bush's fault" seem like an extremely sick joke. Maybe we should start blaming all our failures on King George III or the War of 1812 or Herbert Hoover's father (bad parenting you know). How about someone taking responsibility for what happens to THEM; under their stewardship! Ah, but victimhood is too sweet at strategy to pass up.




    In my town, we have "drive by inspections". Guess the odumbo administration is now going for "float by inspections".




    OBEY....Or you will feel my boot on the back of your neck. The MMS is not controlled by my administration. It is Bushes fault. I am not the President when things go wrong. I am only the bearer of good news. Even though I have not run a lemonade stand, I know what is right. Just OBEY and blame Bush. I have been in offfice for almost 2 years I do not control my administration my 200 czars do. Blame Bush....
    Kill him.
    Kill her.
    Kill It.
    Kill everything... that IS the solution!
    П(•_•)П
    twitchy molests my signature!

  10. #10
    Elite Member Mel1973's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Cuntopia
    Posts
    42,983

    Default

    Oil slick haiku:


    It was Bush's fault?

    Gummit asleep at the wheel

    Impeach Obama!




    God but you liberals are idiots. Chris Dodd along with Barney the purple dragon Frank gutted the housing market and you cared not and now the Doddering fool tries to blame Bush for this issue? Your little Nero fiddles while America burns and I have to admit even I am amazed at how inept you nitwits are performing. I was no fan of Bush and you clowns have made him look like an interstellar success.
    Peace out OBOTS.
    Last edited by Mel1973; June 8th, 2010 at 09:16 AM.
    Kill him.
    Kill her.
    Kill It.
    Kill everything... that IS the solution!
    П(•_•)П
    twitchy molests my signature!

  11. #11
    Friend of Gossip Rocks! buttmunch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Uranus
    Posts
    31,884

    Default

    Liberals are idiots? Nice. According to Mel, Grimm, with and a few others if anyone defends Obama or doesn't slap him with blanket condemnation they're stupid. No room for seeing the finer points in things, just stupid liberals who know nothing. Who knew.
    'Those who sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.' Ben Franklin

    "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross."
    --Sinclair Lewis

  12. #12
    Elite Member greysfang's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Burning Down Your Windmill
    Posts
    56,408

    Default

    Nope, sorry. As much as I'd love to, I'm not gonna blame W and his posse for this any more than I'm going to blame Clinton for the economic meltdown on W's watch. Obama has had plenty of time to fix this shit.
    FUCK YOU AND GIVE ME MY GODDAMN VENTI TWO PUMP LIGHT WHIP MOCHA YOU COCKSUCKING WHORE BEFORE I PUNCH YOU IN THE MOUTH. I just get unpleasant in my car. - Deej

    http://www.gossiprocks.com/forum/signaturepics/sigpic4098_9.gif Healthy is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die.

  13. #13
    Elite Member Grimmlok's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    In WhoreLand fucking your MOM
    Posts
    55,359

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by buttmunch View Post
    Liberals are idiots? Nice. According to Mel, Grimm, with and a few others if anyone defends Obama or doesn't slap him with blanket condemnation they're stupid. No room for seeing the finer points in things, just stupid liberals who know nothing. Who knew.
    Uh, what?

    Those are quotes Mel is pulling from some Yahoo question and answer doohicky somewhere on the internet. I asked her to post them cuz Mel said they were out to lunch and I wanted to be amused
    I am from the American CIA and I have a radio in my head. I am going to kill you.

  14. #14
    Friend of Gossip Rocks! buttmunch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Uranus
    Posts
    31,884

    Default

    I'm not completely blaming Bush and co. but there is responsibility there. What annoys me more that whenever there is an attempt to discuss any of this anyone who doesn't agree that Obama is the devil incarnate is branded stupid and a bot. It's like those morons who are beating their chests for Obama to show more emotion and play to the audience. I'd rather he kept it shut and did some work. I don't need bells and whistles. I'll wait and see how it plays out.
    'Those who sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.' Ben Franklin

    "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross."
    --Sinclair Lewis

  15. #15
    Friend of Gossip Rocks! buttmunch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Uranus
    Posts
    31,884

    Default

    I believe Mel used the phrase 'God, you liberals are such idiots'. It happens from various quarters in any thread about Obama where I or anyone who doesn't think he sucks wad--we're branded stupid, blind, in denial, things we've said weeks prior are thrown back at us, etc. It's boring and it's not debate. It's just name calling and seeing who can shout the loudest.
    'Those who sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.' Ben Franklin

    "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross."
    --Sinclair Lewis

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Sarah Palin blames Gulf oil spill on... environmentalists?
    By buttmunch in forum U.S. Politics and Issues
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: June 4th, 2010, 01:35 AM
  2. Congressman cries during Gulf Oil spill hearing: has dodgy track record
    By buttmunch in forum U.S. Politics and Issues
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: May 28th, 2010, 06:30 PM
  3. "Good Job" Michael Brown Spins the Gulf Oil Spill Catastrophe
    By HWBL in forum U.S. Politics and Issues
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: May 5th, 2010, 10:28 AM
  4. Spill Baby Spill: White House Orders All New Off Shore Drilling Put on Hold
    By witchcurlgirl in forum U.S. Politics and Issues
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: May 2nd, 2010, 10:03 PM
  5. Cheney to raise funds for Delay.
    By buttmunch in forum U.S. Politics and Issues
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: November 24th, 2005, 01:29 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •