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    Default Lawmaker Sally Kern wants to make it tougher to get a divorce in Oklahoma


    State Representative Sally Kern is seeking to get a bill passed that would put tighter restrictions on getting a divorce in Oklahoma.

    By Charles Bassett, NEWS 9

    OKLAHOMA CITY -- An Oklahoma lawmaker wants to put tighter restrictions on couples seeking a divorce.
    State Representative Sally Kern is seeking to limit the "incompatibility" rule for getting a divorce.
    Read the proposed bill.
    There are several reasons a person can seek a divorce such as adultery or extreme cruelty, but when it comes to incompatibility Kern says there should be some stipulations.
    Sally Kern is no stranger to controversy. She equated gays with terrorists and called for a state proclamation on morality.
    Now Kern is taking on divorce.
    "This bill will just put the brakes on a divorce being granted immediately," Kern said. "It does not say or intend to mean a divorce will never be given."
    Kern has filed House Bill 2279 under the incompatibility provision she says a divorce should not be granted if there are living minor children in the marriage, the parties have been married 10 years or longer or if either party files a written objection to the divorce.
    Kern says her overall goal is to protect children.
    "When minor children are involved, parents need to think a little bit beyond just themselves," said Kern. "They have a responsibility and an obligation to those children."
    Historically, Oklahoma has ranked high when it comes to divorce. The Oklahoma Marriage Initiative works to keep couples together.
    "We have focused not on legislation, but on providing skills, but we certainly commend the lawmakers for thinking creatively about potential strategies as well," Kendy Cox with the Oklahoma Marriage Initiative said.
    But not everyone sees it that way.
    "If this isn't big government, I don't know what it is," Chuck Thornton with the American Civil Liberties Union said.
    The local chapter of the ACLU says Kern's rational for protecting children doesn't fly and they expect there will be legal challenges to the proposed legislation.
    "We're talking about one of the most treasured associational rights that a person has as being married and here comes a so-called conservative trying to stick her nose in the most private of associational matters," Thornton said.
    If Kern gets her way the measure will become law November 1.

    Lawmaker Sally Kern Wants to Make it Tougher to Get a Divorce - News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports |

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    LOL do it. The theocratic assault on heterosexual unions has begun.

    Now the straights will know what it's like. BRING IT. I hope she wins.
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    And countdown begins to her husband being exposed as a serial philanderer...or her being exposed as a lesbian. Something's gotta give and I await it breathlessly.
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    Just watch the spousal murder rate soar.
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    I don't mind the concept, its just who its coming from that's irritating.
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    ^^^
    really?

    how does this protect children? any child of divorce will tell you that divorced parents are better than parents who stay together and hate each other.
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    I never said any such thing. Really. I just think divorce is too easy, always have. i think getting married is too easy as well. In cases where no abuse is involved I support required marital counseling before divorce.
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    i get where you're coming from. and i agree that sometimes people make the decision to get a divorce too lightly. and to get married too, for that matter. but while i think that's a problem, i don't it's one that can or should be resolved through law enforcement.

    there will always be people who abuse rights and make poor decisions. but the law shouldn't be used to try to improve people's judgement because unfortunately it's always other people who end up paying the price.

    at the same time, personally, i don't see what the incentive is to want people to stay married. i don't see why it's better for people to stay married and for divorce rates to be low. if two people don't want to be together anymore, it's their right. and it's not up to society or the law to decide if and when they can split up, or to make it difficult for them to do so. it's their personal choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greysfang View Post
    I never said any such thing. Really. I just think divorce is too easy, always have. i think getting married is too easy as well. In cases where no abuse is involved I support required marital counseling before divorce.
    Really? I agree that people drop into and out of relationships far too easily but mandated marital counseling? I'd rather see a mandated cooling off period. If I don't want to be with someone I don't think the government should try to make me sort things out. I may have my reasons that I don't want to talk about. And I think it's a slippery slope to head down so am extremely reluctant to even take that first step.
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    People should be able to marry and divorce if they want and regardless of whether they're gay or straight.

    Quote Originally Posted by greysfang View Post
    i think getting married is too easy as well.
    Yep. Getting married is waaaay easy. Easier than getting a divorce. I got married in less than ten minutes.

    With a divorce you usually have to go through so much paperwork, lawyers, stress, meditation, counseling, etc.

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    First, fundies want to dictate who can get married, and now they want to dictate who can get divorced. It's another chapter in the stupid crusade to protect the sanctity of marriage.

    Kern has filed House Bill 2279 under the incompatibility provision she says a divorce should not be granted if there are living minor children in the marriage, the parties have been married 10 years or longer or if either party files a written objection to the divorce.
    Kern says her overall goal is to protect children.
    So people should be forced to stay in miserable marriages because of minor children and if one party opposes the divorce? That doesn't protect children. It just forces kids to grow up in toxic, hostile environments, which will do MORE damage than a divorce will.

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    Doesn't that just "reward" adultery? Reasonable, respectful people who want a divorce because they aren't working together are forced to stay together, but a philanderer who "can't control themselves" skips out lickety-split.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmmdee View Post
    People should be able to marry and divorce if they want and regardless of whether they're gay or straight.



    Yep. Getting married is waaaay easy. Easier than getting a divorce. I got married in less than ten minutes.

    With a divorce you usually have to go through so much paperwork, lawyers, stress, meditation, counseling, etc.
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    ^ That's funny, Butt.

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