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    Angry Joe Lieberman: The United States must pre-emptively act in Yemen


    Sen. Joseph Lieberman, (Idiot-Conn) a renowned hawk and one of the foremost champions of the invasion of Iraq, warned on Sunday that the United States faced "danger" unless it pre-emptively acts to curb the rise of terrorism in Yemen.

    "Somebody in our government said to me in Sana'a, the capital of Yemen, Iraq was yesterday's war. Afghanistan is today's war. If we don't act preemptively, Yemen will be tomorrow's war," Lieberman said, during an appearance on "Fox News Sunday". "That's the danger we face."

    The Connecticut Independent, who heads the Senate Committee on Homeland Security, made his remarks just days after a Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab -- a Nigerian with apparent ties to terrorist networks in Yemen -- failed in his attempt to blow up a plane above Detroit, Michigan.

    In his appearance on "Fox News Sunday", Lieberman also argued that the botched attack should compel the Obama administration to abandon efforts to transfer suspected-terrorists out of the holding facility at Guantanamo Bay, saying that the complex is now well above international standards.

    "I know the president made a promise he'd close Guantanamo because of what it represented in world opinion," Lieberman said. "But today it's a first-class facility. It's way above what's required by the Geneva Convention or our constitution. It would be a mistake to send these 90 people back to Yemen because, based on the past of what's happened when we've released people from Guantanamo, a certain number have gone back into the fight against us. Yemen now becomes one of the centers of that fight."

    The frame adopted by the Lieberman in discussing Gitmo will undoubtedly produce shudders among the civil libertarian crowd and even the Obama administration, which insists it has taken every precaution before transferring suspected terrorist to their home country. The senator's calls for pre-emptive action in Yemen (however vague), meanwhile, seem likely to be echoed in the days ahead as a growing number of neoconservative and conservative foreign policy voices have used the attempted airline attack to call into question the tactics Obama has applied to curb terrorism.

    "This is an international movement of radicalization," Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-Mich.), the ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee, said on "Fox News Sunday." "The Obama administration came in and said we're not going to use the word terrorism anymore. We're going to call it man-made disasters, trying to, I think, downplay the threat from terrorism. In reality, it's getting much more complex. Radicalization is alive. It is well. They want to attack the United States. That threat is here in the United States. It is lone-wolf individuals, it is people that have become radicalized, that have had some contact with al Qaeda, and then it is the threat that comes from al Qaeda central. Homegrown terrorism, the threat to the United States, is real. I think this administration has downplayed it. They need to recognize it, identify it. It is the only way we are going to defeat it."
    Lieberman: The United States Must Pre-Emptively Act In Yemen

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    Yeah, Joe, that makes sense. We're already fighting two wars, let's add a 3rd one. Hell, why not invade Russia, Iran & North Korea while we're at it? I guess Joe missed the memo that the Bush Doctrine of pre-emptive invasions doesn't work.

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    And Nigeria!
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    Why do the people of Connecticut, who seem perfectly rational on all other matters, keep electing this twit?

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    I say Nigeria, we need to stop those evil Nigerian chain letters, and scams!

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    It feels like the US will be in a perpetual state of war. Al-Qaida has a strong presence in Yemen with terrorist training camps. But terrorist training camps are also in Pakistan, Afghanistan, India, Iraq, Somalia, Indonesia - the list goes on. Their number one target is the US and its allies.

    I'm playing devil's advocate here - should we sit back and take a soft approach? If we do this, then the training camps will get bigger and stronger. If we do a pre-emptive, will it end up like Iraq and Afghanistan??

    What is the answer??

    Articles on Yemen becoming a safe haven for terrorists:
    US special forces train Yemen army as Arab state becomes al-Qaeda 'reserve base'

    US special forces have been sent to Yemen to train its army amid fears the unstable Arab state is becoming a strategically important base for al-Qaeda.

    By Damien McElroy in Manama, Bahrain
    Published: 11:30PM GMT 13 Dec 2009


    Gen David Petraeus speaks at International Institute for Strategic Studies and Regional Security Conference in Manama, Bahrain where security issues, including unrest in Yemen are being discussed
    Photo: AP

    American officials told The Daily Telegraph the country is becoming a "reserve" base for the terrorist network, which considers it a safe haven.
    The deployment comes as Yemen's neighbours said they had arrested "dozens" of al-Qaeda fighters moving in and out of the country. Oman, a moderate Arab state on Yemen's border, is to increase the number of naval patrols around the Arabian peninsula to try to intercept suspected terrorists on the move between bases in Yemen and South Asia.....


    US special forces train Yemen army as Arab state becomes al-Qaeda 'reserve base' - Telegraph

    and also this:
    Detroit terror attack: Yemen is the true home of Al-Qaeda

    The Detroit airline bomb plot was planned in the land of bin Laden's ancestors. Richard Spencer reports.

    By Richard Spencer
    Published: 8:42AM GMT 28 Dec 2009


    Under suspicion: Anwar al-Awlaki was in contact with the Fort Hood attacker
    Photo: Mohammad Ud-Deen


    To try to blow up an airliner by sewing explosives into your underpants might seem more a ruse of desperation, something out of Blackadder, than anything from the standard terrorist training manual.
    That is a very different view from how it is being presented to us, of course: as a new and dangerous tactic in a war in which no means of attacking the enemies of Islam goes unexplored........

    Detroit terror attack: Yemen is the true home of Al-Qaeda - Telegraph
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    Here we go again.

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    We're already operating inside Yemen, and have had the CIA inside for about a year. We are now going to step it up. I guess the new adminstration missed the memo on Bush Doctrine of pre-emptive military action not working as well.

    This article is from 12/19:
    Obama Ordered U.S. Military Strike on Yemen Terrorists

    Cruise Missiles Launched Thursday Hit Two Suspected al Qaeda Sites; Major Escalation of US Efforts Against Terrorists

    On orders from President Barack Obama, the U.S. military launched cruise missiles early Thursday against two suspected al-Qaeda sites in Yemen, administration officials told ABC News in a report broadcast on ABC World News with Charles Gibson.

    One of the targeted sites was a suspected al Qaeda training camp north of the capitol, Sanaa, and the second target was a location where officials said "an imminent attack against a U.S. asset was being planned."

    The Yemen attacks by the U.S. military represent a major escalation of the Obama administration's campaign against al Qaeda.


    In his speech about added troops for Afghanistan earlier this month, President Obama made a brief reference to Yemen, saying, "Where al Qaeda and its allies attempt to establish a foothold -- whether in Somalia or Yemen or elsewhere -- they must be confronted by growing pressure and strong partnerships."


    Until tonight, American officials had hedged about any U.S. role in the strikes against Yemen and news reports from Yemen attributed the attacks to the Yemen Air Force.

    President Obama placed a call after the strikes to "congratulate" the President of Yemen, Ali Abdallah Salih, on his efforts against al Qaeda, according to White House officials.

    A Yemeni official at the country's embassy in Washington insisted to ABC News Friday that the Thursday attacks were "planned and executed" by the Yemen government and police.

    Along with the two U.S. cruise missile attacks, Yemen security forces carried out raids in three separate locations. As many as 120 people were killed in the three raids, according to reports from Yemen, and opposition leaders said many of the dead were innocent civilians.

    American officials said the missile strikes were intended to disrupt a growing threat from the al Qaeda branch in Yemen, which claims to coordinate terror attacks against neighboring Saudi Arabia.

    The al Qaeda presence in Yemen has been steadily growing in the last two years. "Al Qaeda generally has been pushed into these ungoverned areas, whether it is the Afghanistan-Pakistan border area [or Yemen]," said Richard Barrett, coordinator of the U.N.'s Taliban al-Qaeda Sancitions Monitoring Committee. "I think many of the key people have moved to Yemen."

    The U.S. embassy was attacked by suspected al Qaeda gunmen last year.

    And the presumed leader of al Qaeda in Yemen, Qaaim al-Raymi, has frequently appeared on internet videos, offering an alternative to the training camps in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

    "If they can go to Yemen just as easily or easier and get training there and come out again," said Barrett, "all your efforts in Pakistan and Afghanistan are a waste of time."

    Qaaim al-Raymi was considered a prime target of the attack Thursday but was reported to have escaped the attack. However, U.S. officials believe one of his top deputies may have been killed.


    Cruise Missiles Strike Yemen - ABC News
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    It's a good thing this adminstration ended the 'War On Terror'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsMarsters View Post
    I say Nigeria, we need to stop those evil Nigerian chain letters, and scams!
    And the Nigerian prince behind it all. Nigeria is now part of the new axis of evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by witchcurlgirl View Post
    It's a good thing this adminstration ended the 'War On Terror'.
    and those other abstract nouns.
    "If you are not outraged, then you are not paying attention," Heather Heyer's facebook quote.

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    I am so tired of our country being the World Terror Police. We aren't going to have any men left in the country if we keep this up.

    I know some of the things that go on in other countries is tragic, but it is their culture, not ours. Their choice to live their life the way they see fit.

    Maybe I am being narrow-minded, but enough is enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twitchy2.0 View Post
    and those other abstract nouns.

    Itís well known, in philological circles, that itís very hard for abstract nouns to surrender.

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