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    Obama is fast losing white voters' support -- latimes.com

    By Peter Wallsten
    September 7, 2009
    Reporting from Washington

    After a summer of healthcare battles and sliding approval ratings for President Obama, the White House is facing a troubling new trend: The voters losing faith in the president are the ones he had worked hardest to attract.

    New surveys show steep declines in Obama's approval ratings among whites -- including Democrats and independents -- who were crucial elements of the diverse coalition that helped elect the country's first black president.

    Among white Democrats, Obama’s job approval rating has dropped 11 points since his 100-days mark in April, according to surveys by the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press. It has dropped by 9 points among white independents and whites over 50, and by 12 points among white women -- all groups that will be targeted by both parties in next year's midterm elections.

    "While Obama has a lock on African Americans, his support among white voters seems to be almost in a free fall," said veteran Republican pollster Neil Newhouse.

    Strategists in both parties blame Obama's decline on growing discontent with his policy agenda, particularly after a month of often-rowdy debate over his proposed healthcare overhaul, in which some conservatives accused him of socialism. Obama's ratings seem likely to rise again if he wins passage of healthcare legislation this fall.

    But the drop in support among whites also comes as some conservatives have stoked controversies that have the potential to further erode Obama's standing among centrists -- including some controversies that resulted from White House stumbles.

    One such episode came to a head Sunday when Van Jones, Obama’s green jobs czar, resigned after a week of criticism over past inflammatory statements and for signing onto conspiracy theories questioning whether the U.S. government played a role in the Sept. 11 attacks. A White House official acknowledged Sunday that Jones had been vetted less rigorously than other officials.

    In another episode, some conservatives have criticized a White House dinner invitation issued to the lead lawyer in the American Civil Liberties Union lawsuits that have forced the government to disclose Bush-era interrogation techniques. The lawyer was invited to an event for the Muslim holiday of Ramadan.

    And Obama's plan to address the nation's schoolchildren Tuesday has prompted an outcry among some conservative parents and GOP officials. Some of them have accused the White House of trying to infuse "socialism" into the minds of young people.

    These controversies have followed conspiracy theories that the president was born overseas and is ineligible to hold office, and that his true religion is Islam -- false rumors that some Democrats worry could be affecting the public's view of the president and his party.

    Pew first identified a slippage in white support immediately after a news conference in July, when Obama surprised many by saying that a white police officer had acted "stupidly" in arresting a black Harvard professor.

    Still unclear is whether Obama's slide in the polls is due solely to his policies, or questions about his personal background or allegiances.

    During the presidential campaign last fall, the nation's economic meltdown swamped any attempts by Republicans to portray Obama as having radical associations with figures such as his former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr.

    Some conservatives, such as Fox's Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity, have argued that Jones, an outspoken Bay Area black activist who once described himself as a communist, fit the same pattern.

    One black congressman, Rep. Charles B. Rangel (D-N.Y.), was quoted last week alleging that opposition to Obama's healthcare policies was "a bias, a prejudice, an emotional feeling."

    "Some Americans have not gotten over the fact that Obama is president of the United States. They go to sleep wondering, 'How did this happen?' " Rangel said, according to the New York Post.

    Democratic pollster David Beattie conducted a survey last month in one competitive congressional district that found that more than a quarter of independents believed Obama had not proven his natural-born status. The same sentiment was expressed by nearly 6 in 10 Republican women -- a group that Beattie said would be important for a Democratic victory.

    He declined to name the district because the polling was private, but said that such questions about Obama's background seemed to be a "proxy" for voters' growing unease with Obama's ambitious agenda, which has included a potential push to create a government-sponsored health insurance plan.

    Surveys show that the vast majority of Americans like Obama personally, but that they are increasingly skeptical of policies that seem to expand the scope of government.

    "We're having an economic culture war," Beattie said.

    "The criticisms of Obama are about the fundamental role of government in our economy."

    A new analysis by the nonpartisan Cook Political Report concludes that nervousness about the president could prove devastating for Democrats next year.

    The analysis, with a headline asking if 2010 could be the "year of the angry white senior," warns that Obama faces a growing "gulf" between his still-strong support among young people and his dwindling numbers among people 65 and older.

    The result, according to analyst David Wasserman, could be a loss by Democrats of up to 25 House seats. Democrats currently hold a 78-seat majority in the House.

    Obama won a narrow majority of independents in last year's election, and the Pew numbers show that his approval rating among that group rose to 57% in April -- including half of white independents -- before declining to 48% most recently.

    More than half of whites older than 50 approved of Obama's job performance in April. But now, after weeks of Republican accusations that the Democrats would seek to cut Medicare benefits, that number is 43%. Among white Democrats, Obama's approval rating dropped to 78%, from 89%.

    Some Democrats are hopeful that Republican opposition to Obama may be firing up core conservatives but failing to win over even skeptical centrists and independents to the GOP cause.

    Dan Parker, Democratic Party chairman in Indiana, home to three competitive congressional districts and an upset win last year by Obama, said that the Republicans have yet to field strong challengers in those House races this year.

    And, he added, in a state hit hard by economic troubles, voters are willing to give Obama credit for his economic stimulus package and for bailing out the auto industry.

    "Once he gets the credit for passing healthcare reform, then he'll see the political benefit," Parker said.

    But the conservative rebellion against Obama has even hit Parker close to home. Last week, he received an e-mail from the principal at his children's school with the news that Obama's Tuesday back-to-school address would not be shown to most students, due to complaints from parents.

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    I don't even know how to respond to this. Fucking country is going to implode on itself.

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    maybe it should.

    it could use a restart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Authority View Post
    I don't even know how to respond to this. Fucking country is going to implode on itself.
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    I'm actually not shocked. But most of this 'revolt' is just people who are scared of losing 'their America.' It was the same thing in the 60's. And, on some level, I think we may be revisiting the turbulent 60's.

    But racism against Obama isn't just in America, there have been examples of it in other countries, too. And some of it isn't just blatant racism, in both the U.S. & abroad. Some people just can't handle drastic change and are having a hard time adjusting to the image of a non-white person as president. It'd be the same with a female president.

    Hell, there are times when I hear someone mention the President on T.V. and for a split second I still expect to see a white male, because that's what I'm used to seeing.

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    Just because a Democrat or Independent doesn't approve of the way he's handling things right now doesn't mean they're going to vote for a Republican instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhoAmI View Post
    Just because a Democrat or Independent doesn't approve of the way he's handling things right now doesn't mean they're going to vote for a Republican instead.
    Yup! Because as of right now, the GOP is only offering crazy. Lots of voters aren't going to vote for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhoAmI View Post
    Just because a Democrat or Independent doesn't approve of the way he's handling things right now doesn't mean they're going to vote for a Republican instead.
    Exactly. If the GOP keeps courting the extremist voters, no reasonably sane person is going to vote for them just because they don't like Obama's policies. They'll either vote for the Green Party, won't vote at all, or they'll vote for Obama because he's the lesser of the two evils compared to the GOP.

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    The honeymoon is over. With smooth talk and reassurances Obama came sweeping in on a tide of optimism for change after Dubya's disastrous administration. But his lack of experience and naivete on how amenable the fundamentally conservative (with a small "c") the great US public is to change is rapidly unravelling his Grand Plan. Of course a universal healthcare system is badly needed and everyone agrees that it's a Good Thing, on paper at least. However, once the reality of how it would be achieved, ie more taxes, sinks in people back away to their comfort zone of the status quo, flawed as it is. Generally speaking people do not like change. Obama's hasty and badly thought out decision to close Gitmo almost as soon as he came to the White House should have been a red flag. And I say this as a firm Obama supporter - even though I couldn't vote for him.
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    Why does it surprise anyone that Obama's rapidly losing white support? Many Americans are only now catching on that politically he's a Stanlinist; culturally he's an Indonesian Moslem, hardly a traditional American and the presidency is as much a cultural office as it is political.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingcap72 View Post
    Exactly. If the GOP keeps courting the extremist voters, no reasonably sane person is going to vote for them just because they don't like Obama's policies. They'll either vote for the Green Party, won't vote at all, or they'll vote for Obama because he's the lesser of the two evils compared to the GOP.
    Right. The GOP insanity is the best weapon that the Democrats have.

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    ^Don't count out the amount of insanity amongst the Americun, God-fearing, Patriotic, citizens.
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