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    Grim Milestone Nears for US In Afghan War

    August Set to Become Deadliest Month for American Troops Since Invasion as 44th Death Confirmed by Military

    AP) NATO says a U.S. service member has been killed in a militant attack involving a roadside bomb and gunfire.

    The death brings to 44 the number of U.S. troops who have died in Afghanistan this month, tying August with July for the deadliest month of the eight-year war.

    NATO says the American died in southern Afghanistan on Thursday when the troop's patrol responded to the gunfire attack.

    With four days left in the month, August is likely to become the deadliest of the war. More than 60,000 U.S. troops are now in the country - a record number - to combat rising insurgent violence.

    Meanwhile, NATO and Afghan officials said Thursday that a U.S. helicopter had attacked a medical clinic in eastern Afghanistan after a wounded Taliban commander sought treatment there.

    Officials said U.S. and Afghan forces clashed with insurgents at the clinic after militants put up resistance. The militant death toll from Wednesday's fight varied widely from none killed to 12 dead.

    A U.S. statement said an AH-64 Apache helicopter fired rounds at the clinic after it was cleared of civilians. It said seven insurgents were detained.

    Hamidullah Zhwak, spokesman for Paktika province's governor, said the attack began after a wounded Taliban commander went for treatment at the clinic. U.S. and Afghan forces were tipped off and fighting with some 20 militants lasted about five hours.

    Zhwak said the Taliban commander was wounded Aug. 20, the day of the country's presidential election.

    The latest violence comes as the war-torn country awaits results from that election. The lengthy vote count, coupled with ongoing accusations of fraud, threatens to undermine hopes that Afghans can put together a united front against the insurgency.

    Grim Milestone Nears for US In Afghan War - CBS News

    This story leads me to think about something. When we had the photo ban on military coffins, there was a lot of justified outrage about it- not just from citizens, but from the media. But that ban was lifted quite some time ago, and I have not noticed pics of coffins being brought home even though soldiers are dying. Why are these pictures not being shown now by the media who had such an issue with it when they were banned?
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    This is just f**king ridiculous. We're sending troops over there to fight an unwinnable cluster f**k. They are basically going over there to be sitting ducks for IED's and complex ambush attacks. WTF, over.

    Even the chairman of joint chiefs of staff thinks this is a grave situation, and others think more troops are needed.

    The idiots in washington can't even come up with any simple matrix or plans for ending this conflict. Basically, they have no answers or solutions short of sending 5 million troops over there and subjugating them by force, just so they can have 'western style democracy,' a f**king joke if there ever was one.

    They've already talked about paying the mujahideen over there NOT to side with the taliban, which actually would save the U.S. money compared to keeping troops over there.

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    August deadliest month for US in Afghanistan - Yahoo! News

    KABUL – An American service member died Friday when his vehicle struck a bomb in eastern Afghanistan, making August the deadliest month for U.S. forces in the nearly eight-year war.
    The grim milestone comes as the top U.S. commander prepares to submit his assessment of the conflict — a report expected to trigger intense debate on the Obama administration's strategy in an increasingly unpopular war.
    The latest death was reported as Afghan officials announced an 80 percent increase in the number of major fraud allegations submitted after last week's disputed presidential election — a sign of the deep challenges facing the U.S. and its allies in shoring up a legitimate Afghan government capable of withstanding the Taliban insurgency, corruption and drug trafficking.
    A brief statement by the NATO command gave few details of the blast and did not say precisely where it occurred. U.S. military spokeswoman Capt. Elizabeth Mathias said the service member who died was American.
    That brought to 45 the number of U.S. service members killed this month in the Afghan war — one more than the previous monthly record, set in July.
    American casualties have been rising steadily following President Barack Obama's decision to send 21,000 additional troops to Afghanistan to combat a resurgent Taliban and train Afghan security forces to assume a greater role in battling the insurgents.
    Obama's decision was part of a strategic shift in the U.S. war against international Islamic extremism — moving resources from Iraq, which had been center stage since the 2003 U.S.-led invasion but where violence has declined sharply from levels of two years ago.
    A record 62,000 U.S. troops are now in the country, with 4,000 more due before year's end. That compares with about 130,000 in Iraq, most due to leave next year.
    Since the fresh troops began arriving in Afghanistan last spring, U.S. deaths have climbed steadily — from 12 in May to more than 40 for the past two months as American forces have taken the fight to the Taliban in areas of the country which have long been under insurgent control.
    At least 732 U.S. service members have died in the Afghan war since the U.S.-led invasion of late 2001. Nearly 60 percent of those deaths occurred since the Taliban insurgency began to rebound in 2007.
    The latest spike in U.S. deaths has raised doubts among the United States and its allies about the course of the war, which was launched by the Bush administration after the Taliban government refused to hand over Osama bin Laden for his role in the Sept. 11, 2001 terror attacks in the United States.
    A recent Washington Post-ABC News poll found that just over 50 percent of the American respondents said the war in Afghanistan was not worth fighting. Anti-war sentiment is also growing in Britain following a spike in deaths among British forces in Afghanistan.
    The debate over the war is likely to accelerate when the new top commander in Afghanistan, Gen. Stanley McChrystal, submits an assessment of the conflict by the end of this month.
    McChrystal, who commanded special operations troops in Iraq, is expected to give a bleak assessment of the war, pointing to deficiencies in the Afghan government and recommending vastly expanding the size of Afghanistan's own security forces.
    Those weaknesses in the Afghan government have come into sharp focus since the flawed Aug. 20 presidential election, which produced allegations of widespread fraud — most leveled by opponents of President Hamid Karzai.
    Final results are not expected for weeks, but preliminary figures released this week show Karzai leading the 36-candidate field with 44.8 percent of the vote, followed by ex-Foreign Minister Abdullah Abdullah with 35.1 percent. A runoff must be held if no candidate wins more than 50 percent. Abdullah has accused Karzai of rigging the election, a charge the incumbent denies.
    On Friday, the U.N.-backed Electoral Complaints Commission said the number of major fraud complaints which could "materially affect" the outcome had soared to 270. On Wednesday, the commission said it had received 150 major complaints, which could delay announcement of the final results.
    The lengthy election process has added to strains in U.S.-Afghan relations, which had already cooled since the Obama administration took office.
    On Friday, two officials said Karzai angrily accused the U.S. of pushing for a runoff vote during a heated meeting with the special envoy to the region.
    According to officials familiar with the encounter, the verbal exchange occurred the day after the Aug. 20 vote during a meeting in Kabul between Karzai and U.S. special envoy Richard Holbrooke. The officials were briefed about the meeting and spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the information.
    Karzai assured Holbrooke he would accept the election results but bristled when Holbrooke asked if he would also agree to a runoff.
    An angry Karzai accused the U.S. of urging a second round before all votes had been counted. Karzai said he would accept the election commission's tabulation as long as it reflected the facts. He did not elaborate, according to the officials.
    The U.S. Embassy confirmed the Aug. 21 meeting and said the two discussed the election but would not go into details.
    "There was no shouting and no one stormed out," said Caitlin Hayden, an embassy spokeswoman. She noted Holbrooke and Karzai met again a few days later. Karzai spokesman Humayun Hamidzada also confirmed the meeting but gave no further details.
    Karzai enjoyed close ties with the Bush administration, which helped propel him to power after the collapse of the Taliban government in the U.S.-led invasion.
    Since the Obama administration took office, U.S. officials have accused Karzai of weak leadership as well as tolerating corruption and a flourishing drug trade.
    The New York Times reported this week that the Obama administration is alarmed at the prospect that Karzai's running mate, Mohammad Qasim Fahim, may be linked to the drug trade.
    Quoting an unidentified administration official, the newspaper said if Fahim becomes vice president, the U.S. would likely consider imposing sanctions such as refusing him a U.S. visa or going after his personal finances.
    A U.S. official in Washington confirmed the essence of the report, saying there were "a number of individuals" whom the U.S. would not like to see in a future Afghan government. He spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive subject matter.

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    When it comes to this war, I can't even talk about it. It chokes me up beyond words. I've lost 2 good friends there. Eric Ramirez died in 2004. He was a Sheriff in our courthouse and he was a really great guy. Federico Borjas was a SDPD officer, he was (believe it or not), Eric's cousin. Rico (as we called him) was super cool and he died in October 2008, not even a year ago. Both their deaths were a damn shame. They were amazing men.

    On a more personal level, my 19 year-old nephew is in Afghanistan now. He's been there since July 20th and believe me, we live each day on pins and needles, glad that we haven't received 'the call'.

    God bless all our servicemen. This war must end soon.

    Army Reserve Sgt. Federico G. Borjas, 33, San Diego; police officer is killed in combat in Afghanistan --

    Army National Guard Spc. Eric U. Ramirez, 31; Killed by Gunfire, Bomb - Los Angeles Times

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    I'm sure the number of civilian casualties is even grimmer. But we don't usually hear about that.

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