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    Woman Shouts "Heil Hitler!" At Jewish Man Praising Israel's National Health System (VIDEO)

    Dear God. This is the way America is now. Some conservative radio host stages a "town hall" meeting in Las Vegas. The local news reports that it "was a packed house, full of opinions and no shortage of passion." How passionate? How does some dumb lady, yelling anti-Semitic slurs at another man grab you?

    Media Monitor Jon, who holds it down daily on YouTube at NewsPoliticsNews, has the completely depressing clip, which shows an Israeli man holding forth on the virtues of Israel's health care system, which is "universal and compulsory, and is administered by a small number of organizations with funding from the government." I have no basis to judge its merits -- in 2000, the World Health Organization ranked it as the 28th best in the world. That said, let me sum up the countering argument, proferred by another town hall attendee: "Heil Hitler!"

    That's right! Some idiot woman yells "Heil Hitler" at a Jewish man who was doing nothing more than being a passionate advocate for Israeli health care. The man, quite naturally, goes completely apoplectic, saying "Shame on you" over and over again. The woman counters by saying, "Well, you ought to be the most against President Obama." The poor man responds by saying, "I want to talk, not against Obama or for Obama. I want to talk about [health care]." He goes on to describe his own experiences with high-cost health care. For his efforts, the woman mocks him some more!

    As ThinkProgress points out today, "Conservatives have strenuously denied that there is any anti-Semitism on display by anti-health reform protesters at town hall meetings nationwide." Those denials are no longer tenable, are they?

    UPDATE: Various sources maintain that this awful woman is wearing an Israeli Defense Forces t-shirt, which is precisely the level of coherence we've come to expect from these Town Hall twits.
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    Woman Shouts "Heil Hitler!" At Jewish Man Praising Israel's National Health System (VIDEO)
    But did you know her husband works 2 & a half or three jobs and doesn't have health care?
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    Barney Frank confronted a nutjob at his town hall
    Barney Frank Confronts Woman At Town Hall Comparing Obama To Hitler

    At a Barney Frank town hall meeting in Dartmouth, MA, a constituent asks, "Why are you supporting this Nazi policy?"

    Frank responds: "On what planet do you spend most of your time?" He then calls her approach "vile, contemptible nonsense." He closes by saying: "Trying to have a conversation with you would be like arguing with a dining room table."
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    Barney Frank Confronts Woman At Town Hall Comparing Obama To Hitler

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    Seriously: it's truly frightening to see the increasing absence of intelligence in the US.
    It used to be mostly concentrated in isolated, hick, territory, but it has been invading
    society as a whole at a worrying pace.
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    omg.
    I still cannot get why people think healthcare for all is a bad thing. It is literally all about the money as far as I can see...


    eta-That woman is a ill-informed cunt. Firstly, to do the 'waah waah' comeback to that Jewish bloke was cowardly in extremis. Her husband doesn't have healthcare. He would if there was a reform but 'OMG THen TEH iLLEgAl ALIEEENS (bless 'em) WuD TOO!!!!!11!!'
    ffs.....

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    I did a little research and it turns out that they bitched and moaned just as much about Medicare back in the 60s. Now they love it. They said all the same stuff..

    George H.W. Bush: Described Medicare in 1964 as “socialized medicine.” [1964]

    Ronald Reagan: “[i]f you don’t [stop Medicare] and I don’t do it, one of these days you and I are going to spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it once was like in America when men were free.” [1961]

    Barry Goldwater: “Having given our pensioners their medical care in kind, why not food baskets, why not public housing accommodations, why not vacation resorts, why not a ration of cigarettes for those who smoke and of beer for those who drink.” [1964]

    Bob Dole: In 1996, while running for the Presidency, Dole openly bragged that he was one of 12 House members who voted against creating Medicare in 1965. “I was there, fighting the fight, voting against Medicare . . . because we knew it wouldn’t work in 1965.” [1965]

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    Health care isn't a right? It has to be earned? With what, money? So basically, they value money over human lives. And why is a rich persons life more valuable than a poor ones?

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    I guess the lady in the Barney Frank video is a "LaRouchie."
    Was Barney Frank’s ‘Nazi’ Questioner a LaRouche Cultist? [UPDATE: Confirmed]

    By David Weigel 8/19/09 10:09 AM

    Update: Yes, the woman was a LaRouche cultist. The full video is here, and I’ve added her full comments. I’m getting a lot of links to this video today, in which Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.) verbally eviscerates a woman waving an Obama=Hitler sign and asking him why he supports “this Nazi policy” of health care reform. To be fair, the evidence suggests that the woman is a supporter of fringe political activist Lyndon LaRouche.

    When Frank criticizes the woman’s sign, she holds it up for him, and another activist holds up the same sign.



    Recognize the image? Right: It’s from Lyndon LaRouche’s anti-health care reform web site.



    And here’s what the woman actually said.
    I think the administration is missing something in these town hall meetings, which is that it’s not just one group. The economy is collapsing. We have 30 percent real unemployment. Forty-eight states cannot balance their budgets. And they are cutting programs to the bone. This is the context under which the Obama administration has said we need health care reform.

    (Applause)

    I’m not done. The reason why is because they say we need to limit Medicare expenditures in order to do that, in order to reduce the deficit. That’s the origin of this policy This is the T4 policy of the Hitler, of a Hitler policy in 1939, where he said certain lives are not worth living.

    (Crowd noise, including boos and a cry of “Shame on you!”)

    Certain people we should not spend the money to keep them alive, which is exactly what Ezekiel Emanuel has said. So my question to you, one, is, this policy is already on its way out, it’s already been defeated by LaRouche. So my question to you is why do you still support this Nazi policy?
    Now, people who live in districts like Frank’s, near major universities, are very familiar with the LaRouche people. When they call something “Nazi-like” or compare someone to Hitler, it’s as rare as Paris Hilton saying “that’s hot.” And they do it in this exact way, showing up in numbers and making sure they get to the microphones first. They ran a long “campaign” against Al Gore along these lines, accusing him of wanting to commit genocide, for some reason. Need a sample of how off-kilter this was?
    Gore, a notorious racist and radical Malthusian, whose global warming swindle would kill billions of people, if fully implemented, is a British agent, through and through. Never mind that his London-based hedge fund, Generation Fund Management, is at the center of the effort to create a “carbon swap” market, described by one U.S. intelligence source as a “$10 trillion ponzi scheme.”
    As I’ve pointed out before, when liberals protested the Iraq War, the small number of anarchists and Communists who showed up to their rallies dominated the coverage. Liberals didn’t get a pass on their associations. Conservatives have been pointing to the presence of LaRouche activists at these town halls to argue that the only people waving “Nazi” signs are LaRouchies. That’s not true, but even if it were true, what would the difference be? This is the second consecutive major political cause where the maniacs of the LaRouche “movement” are finding common cause with mainstream conservatives. In this case, it’s the LaRouche nuts making the case that Democratic health care reform will put old people to death, which is something as many as 45 percent of Americans now believe.
    The Washington Independent » Was Barney Frank’s ‘Nazi’ Questioner a LaRouche Cultist? [UPDATE: Confirmed]

    Last time I saw a bunch of LaRouchies was in San Francisco two years ago. They're weird.

    The LaRouche Cult and the Health Care Protests

    By David Weigel 8/19/09 10:57 AM

    After noting that the disturbed woman who accused Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.) of supporting a “Nazi policy” was a LaRouche cultist, I checked out the trove of videos that LaRouche’s Virginia-based organization has made available since the health care debate began; they upload new ones at least once daily at their YouTube channel. And comparing their rhetoric to the rhetoric of mainstream Republicans is downright eerie. Take this video, in which Leandra Bernstein of LaRouchePAC.com makes the case that a “mass strike” is on.

    Predictably, the LaRouchePAC takes full credit for the protests against Democratic members of Congress: “The White House has been in a defensive flight forward fit ever since Lyndon LaRouche and LaRouchePAC exposed his Nazi health reform.”
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    The protesters are real Americans: “It is not a group of Brooks Brothers-wearing protesters or highly-paid, highly-groomed astroturf organizations.”

    The death panel threat is real: “The population as a whole has come to realize that their lives are being directly threatened by Obama’s health policy.”

    The president’s advisers support euthanasia: “They’ve seen Ezekiel Emanuel’s utilitarian scheme to calculate the value of a human life, and his recommendation to euthanize patients with conditions that are cost-ineffective, or the patients that the state deems unfit due to age, disability, or disease.” That point is illustrated by this ultra-classy image:



    Now, obviously, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) would never make a comparison like that. But compare her rhetoric to the LaRouchePAC’s.
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    This has always been a smear against Emanuel, an outspoken opponent of euthanasia. It’s the sort of thing that would usually be limited to the LaRouche cult. But it hasn’t been limited to them.
    The Washington Independent » The LaRouche Cult and the Health Care Protests

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rondette View Post
    omg.
    I still cannot get why people think healthcare for all is a bad thing. It is literally all about the money as far as I can see...


    eta-That woman is a ill-informed cunt. Firstly, to do the 'waah waah' comeback to that Jewish bloke was cowardly in extremis. Her husband doesn't have healthcare. He would if there was a reform but 'OMG THen TEH iLLEgAl ALIEEENS (bless 'em) WuD TOO!!!!!11!!'
    ffs.....
    Thanks for the precis Rondette!

    Quote Originally Posted by coolios5o View Post
    Health care isn't a right? It has to be earned? With what, money? So basically, they value money over human lives. And why is a rich persons life more valuable than a poor ones?
    Great, you've finally grasped the basis of their argument... idiots!

    Gore, a notorious racist and radical Malthusian, whose global warming swindle would kill billions of people, if fully implemented, is a British agent, through and through. Never mind that his London-based hedge fund, Generation Fund Management, is at the center of the effort to create a “carbon swap” market, described by one U.S. intelligence source as a “$10 trillion ponzi scheme.”
    WTF is that all about "British Agent"????? Don't make me laugh!



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    First, racism and now anti-Semitism. Just goes to show that all of this 'outrage' & 'protests' against reform are just an excuse for people to show their true bigotry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingcap72 View Post
    First, racism and now anti-Semitism. Just goes to show that all of this 'outrage' & 'protests' against reform are just an excuse for people to show their true bigotry.
    ITA - I think that debate and careful consideration is due given that most states don't appear to be able to balance their budgets (hum... tax teh rich more pr'ps?) however name calling and bigotry means that you're loosing the argument.



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    well maybe if there was a concerted effort from on high to slap these retards down, it wouldn't be spreading, but that might be asking too much.
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    You notice it's the poorest of people who need it the most that are ignorantly against this...dumbasses..
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    Its "on high" feeding them the lines - they know that they've lost.


    I have to admit that I find it - amusing isnt the right word, but ironic? IDK... that America - the Super Power is in this much trouble, etc, etc.... Didn't someone predict the fall? Esp after Russia broke up?



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    Every time I think about finally getting my citizenship I take a visit back to Canada, where everything seems so calm and normal. When I return I once again change my mind. People here are scary and crazy. My children live here, my husband is here, my grandkids are here, my heart is in the "Great White North". I'm not saying they don't have their crazies up there, but there are so many angry bigots here in the states it is scary. They are coming out of the woodwork like crazy now. The democrats and republicans are so divisive it is hard to believe. So sad.
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    Sometimes I wonder if people just want to be victims, by their own stupidity or otherwise. Like all these bigots and twits out there comparing health reform to nazis and shit, do actually wish there were 'death camps' so they could 'water the tree of liberty' all day long and feel completely vindicated. My worry is that one of these asshats will take it into their own hands and shoot up elected officials to make a point. That would not be good.

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    It is scary to me how the far right demonizes anyone who doesn't agree with them.

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