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    24 year old Bush political appointee tells NASA to push "intelligent design by a creator" - and by the way, we're all dead

    by John in DC - 2/04/2006 05:40:00 PM


    A week after the Bush administration told NASA global warming experts to stop talking about global warming, we now know have 24 year olds just out college telling senior scientists to water their lectures about Einstein. Literally. That's what the kid did. The scientists were going to be talking about Einstein and the big bang, and the Bush appointee got upset because the big bang might conflict with people's religions.

    So NASA is now a church.

    And we wonder why space shuttles blow up. Screw the repair job. Just slap some tape on that baby, put her on the launch pad, and let's all just pray why she takes off. After all, an intelligent designer would only blow up the shuttle as part of his plan, so who are we to say otherwise?

    And as for this global warming issue. Where are the environmental groups? How hard is it to mount a campaign on global warming when the glaciers in Alaska are melting so badly they've had to move the visitors center closer to the glacier because the glacier is disappearing?

    Deborah Williams, the executive director of the Alaska Conservation Foundation, used to take visitors from the Lower 48 to the famous Portage Glacier just outside Anchorage, where the $8 million Begich-Boggs visitor center opened in 1986. By 1993, the Portage glacier had receded so much that it no longer could be seen from the visitors' center.
    And by the way, read that entire article, it's horrifying.

    Things are getting so bad that polar bears are, for the first time, literally drowning because there's no ice for them to take a break on while swimming.
    SCIENTISTS have for the first time found evidence that polar bears are drowning because climate change is melting the Arctic ice shelf.

    The researchers were startled to find bears having to swim up to 60 miles across open sea to find food. They are being forced into the long voyages because the ice floes from which they feed are melting, becoming smaller and drifting farther apart....

    Polar bears live on ice all year round and use it as a platform from which to hunt food and rear their young. They hunt near the edge, where the ice is thinnest, catching seals when they make holes in the ice to breath. They typically eat one seal every four or five days and a single bear can consume 100lb of blubber at one sitting.

    And now, things have gotten so bad, that scientists are debating whether in the next few decades we're approaching a "tipping point" beyond which there will be nothing we can do to fix the problem. That's when all hell breaks loose.


    Now that most scientists agree human activity is causing Earth to warm, the central debate has shifted to whether climate change is progressing so rapidly that, within decades, humans may be helpless to slow or reverse the trend....

    There are three specific events that these scientists describe as especially worrisome and potentially imminent, although the time frames are a matter of dispute: widespread coral bleaching that could damage the world's fisheries within three decades; dramatic sea level rise by the end of the century that would take tens of thousands of years to reverse; and, within 200 years, a shutdown of the ocean current that moderates temperatures in northern Europe.

    Kiss NY and Florida goodbye:

    ...one of the greatest dangers lies in the disintegration of the Greenland or West Antarctic ice sheets, which together hold about 20 percent of the fresh water on the planet. If either of the two sheets disintegrates, sea level could rise nearly 20 feet in the course of a couple of centuries, swamping the southern third of Florida and Manhattan up to the middle of Greenwich Village.
    And remember that move, The Day After Tomorrow, where the Atlantic current collapses, simulations show there's a 50% of that happening within 200 years:

    Many scientists are also worried about a possible collapse of the Atlantic thermohaline circulation, a current that brings warm surface water to northern Europe and returns cold, deep-ocean water south. Hans Joachim Schellnhuber, who directs Germany's Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research, has run multiple computer models to determine when climate change could disrupt this "conveyor belt," which, according to one study, is already slower than it was 30 years ago. According to these simulations, there is a 50 percent chance the current will collapse within 200 years.
    Now back to the Bush administration trying to censor NASA scientists:
    When Hansen posted data on the Internet in the fall suggesting that 2005 could be the warmest year on record, NASA officials ordered Hansen to withdraw the information because he had not had it screened by the administration in advance, according to a Goddard scientist who spoke on the condition of anonymity. More recently, NASA officials tried to discourage a reporter from interviewing Hansen for this article and later insisted he could speak on the record only if an agency spokeswoman listened in on the conversation.

    How's this for a factoid:

    The 10 warmest years on record all have occurred since 1990, with 2005 the second hottest.

    And finally, here's my favorite part of the Miami Herald story:

    Now, two decades after his landmark paper, Broecker believes recent findings and more refined computer modeling have postponed The Day After Tomorrow indefinitely.

    Only a major icing-over of the North Atlantic would bring about a radical cooling of the Northern Hemisphere. Ice would repel the sun's energy and create more icing. That would happen only if all the Greenland ice melted and injected enough freshwater to shut down the conveyor belt. No computer models see that happening in the foreseeable future.

    Yeah, they only show it happening in 200 years, a 50% chance, in one study - so there is a study, Miami Herald. That's a 50% chance in 200 years of the move 'The Day After Tomorrow' becoming real, at least according to one study.

    Now sure, the Bush administration can tell us that maybe the study is wrong. Maybe the Atlantic current won't stop, freezing most of North American and Europe dead in a new ice age.

    But again, think about it. We're talking a study saying there's a 50% chance of us triggering a new ice age, and the Bush administration isn't concerned.

    So I'll say it again. Where the hell are the environmental groups? Probably with all the other liberal advocacy groups. Off fund-raising.
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    Default Re: NASA told to push "intelligent design" by Bush flunky/retard, and we're all DEAD.

    I think he is proof that there is no such thing as "intelligent design"
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    Default Re: NASA told to push "intelligent design" by Bush flunky/retard, and we're all DEAD.

    More on the stupidity at the New York Times.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/04/sc...erland&emc=rss

    Some exerpts:

    In October, for example, George Deutsch, a presidential appointee in NASA headquarters, told a Web designer working for the agency to add the word “theory” after every mention of the Big Bang, according to an e-mail message from Mr. Deutsch that another NASA employee forwarded to The Times.

    The Big Bang memo came from Mr. Deutsch, a 24-year-old presidential appointee in the press office at NASA headquarters whose résumé says he was an intern in the “war room” of the 2004 Bush-Cheney re-election campaign. A 2003 journalism graduate of Texas A&M, he was also the public-affairs officer who sought more control over Dr. Hansen’s public statements.
    In October 2005, Mr. Deutsch sent an e-mail message to Flint Wild, a NASA contractor working on a set of Web presentations about Einstein for middle-school students. The message said the word “theory” needed to be added after every mention of the Big Bang.
    The Big Bang is “not proven fact; it is opinion,” Mr. Deutsch wrote, adding, “It is not NASA’s place, nor should it be to make a declaration such as this about the existence of the universe that discounts intelligent design by a creator.”
    It continued: “This is more than a science issue, it is a religious issue. And I would hate to think that young people would only be getting one-half of this debate from NASA. That would mean we had failed to properly educate the very people who rely on us for factual information the most.”








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    I know that most of the American public has been spooked into being terrified of Ayrabs and Turrists, but it seems that the World is under a far greater threat from the Krazy Kristians in the White House at the moment.
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    Default Re: NASA told to push "intelligent design" by Bush flunky/retard, and we're all DEAD.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mushy
    NASA is not a church. And nobody has to listen to a 24 year old.
    Well, the point is that he is in a position of authority, and there are certainly people who WILL believe him because of that alone.

    And the fact that the leader of the free world put him there is frightening beyond belief.

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    That would mean we had failed to properly educate the very people who rely on us for factual information the most.
    I'm sorry, I didn't realize intelligent design was based in fact or science.
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    Default Re: NASA told to push "intelligent design" by Bush flunky/retard, and we're all DEAD.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mushy
    NASA is not a church. And nobody has to listen to a 24 year old.
    He's not just any 24-year-old, though. And NASA gets its funding
    for various projects depending on the whims of Congress and the
    military-industrial complex, does it not? And isn't a large part of
    NASA in Jeb Bush's state, Florida (Cape Canaveral and whatnot)?

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    Default Re: NASA told to push "intelligent design" by Bush flunky/retard, and we're all DEAD.

    Why not a 24 year old expert? Bush has been responsible for putting many jackasses into powerful positions. The list goes on and on. I truly wonder if this country will ever recover from him?
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    Default Re: NASA told to push "intelligent design" by Bush flunky/retard, and we're all DEAD.

    from: http://americablog.blogspot.com/

    That GOP hack, anti-science punk at NASA -- he doesn't work there anymore

    by Joe in DC - 2/08/2006 08:21:00 AM

    George Deutsch, the Bush "war room" campaign staffer, who was on a quest to end science at NASA, has "resigned." Yep, he doesn't work there anymore. Seems young Mr. Deutsch had some discrepancies in his resume:
    George C. Deutsch, the young presidential appointee at NASA who told public affairs workers to limit reporters' access to a top climate scientist and told a Web designer to add the word "theory" at every mention of the Big Bang, resigned yesterday, agency officials said.

    NASA Chief Backs Agency Openness (Feb. 4, 2006) Mr. Deutsch's resignation came on the same day that officials at Texas A&M University confirmed that he did not graduate from there, as his resume on file at the agency asserted.
    The best part of this is that he was busted by a blogger, a pro-science blogger at that:
    Mr. Deutsch's educational record was first challenged on Monday by Nick Anthis, who graduated from Texas A&M last year with a biochemistry degree and has been writing a Web log on science policy, scientificactivist.blogspot.com.

    After Mr. Anthis read about the problems at NASA, he said in an interview: "It seemed like political figures had really overstepped the line. I was just going to write some commentary on this when somebody tipped me off that George Deutsch might not have graduated."

    He posted a blog entry asserting this after he checked with the university's association of former students. He reported that the association said Mr. Deutsch received no degree.
    How is anyone who worked for Bush supposed to think that telling little lies will get them in to trouble? Lying about a war helped get his boss re-elected. And how the hell did Deutsch get that job in the first place? That's the question asked by Nick Anthis, the blogger at scientific activist:
    ...instead of the story being about a 24-year-old lying, it should be about this: how did this guy, who already had dubious qualifications, make it into NASA with such an obvious lie on his resume? To work for a federal agency, including NASA, extensive background checks are usually required. If I was able to uncover the truth about Deutsch in one phone call, then he must have been placed in his current position without any investigation, due to his loyal service on the Bush presidential campaign.

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    Now he's free to head up FEMA!! I just love seeing these kind of people caught in lies.

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    POWER TO THE BLOGGERS!!!!!

    God in heaven, I am loving this new medium! Blogs are now the investigative journalism, television news and printed news are dead or corporate shills.

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    Default Re: NASA told to push "intelligent design" by Bush flunky/retard, and we're all DEAD.

    Man Who Left NASA Says He's Under Attack (and he's a low hanging fruit as well)
    (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060210/...sa_resignation)
    Thu Feb 9, 9:35 PM ET

    COLLEGE STATION, Texas - A staffer who resigned from NASA after he was accused of restricting access to a noted climate scientist said Thursday he was targeted because of his political ties.
    George C. Deutsch, 24, resigned from the agency's public relations department earlier this week.
    "What you do have is hearsay coming from a handful of people who have clear partisan ties and they are really coming after me as a Bush appointee," he told radio station WTAW. "I was an easy target. I was low-hanging fruit."
    The New York Times reported Wednesday that Deutsch attempted to limit reporters' access to Jim Hansen, a noted NASA climate scientist, and insisted that a Web designer insert the word "theory" before any mention of the Big Bang.
    Deutsch denied the allegations.
    "I have never been told to censor science, to squelch anything or to insert religion into any issue, absolutely not," said the former Bush campaign worker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twitchy
    "I have never been told to censor science, to squelch anything or to insert religion into any issue, absolutely not," said the former Bush campaign worker.
    Interesting how he doesn't deny doing the censoring himself. "I have never been told to censor science, but I did try to anyway!"

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    Nooo i merely feed off other blogs.
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