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Thread: Writers react to The Sopranos' ending -- David Chase not taking any calls

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    ^^^So true Bonham. If Chase was going to leave it up to me, then he could have atleast handed the story over before he killed off Chris and Bobby, and quite possibly Sil. If you're not going to finish what you've started, why bother?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lisalucy69 View Post
    Yes. It's like reading a book with the last page missing.
    Exactly. And that's what Chase did. He ripped out the last page and punked millions of people just so he could leave the option open to make more millions off of a movie, no matter how much he denies it.

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    They shot 3 different endings, even the actors didn't know which one they would use. He's been honest about wanting to make movies, but he's also said time and time again that he's through with The Sopranos -- time will tell if he meant it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonham View Post
    I would have been totally cool with Tony NOT getting killed. I totally agree with the people who felt like the finale need not have any major bloodbath for it to be satisfactory.
    Then why those stupid 5 seconds where the screen goes blank? Why the 5 seconds of emptiness where the show cuts off at such a weird place in the shot? What purpose do those empty 5 seconds serve?
    This whole business of leaving it up to the audience's interpretation strikes me as really lazy. What is the whole purpose of any ending then? Why bother? Why take the trouble of crafting any coherent plot? Why not leave it all the audience's interpretation?
    I think those 5 seconds are a cop out where David Chase decided not to take a stand either way because he felt the pressure to end with a bloodbath and yet he wanted to stay honest to his own vision and have Tony live his life as usual, and in the end he picked neither path and simply sat on the fence and left it to the audience to interpret whatever they wanted. That's cowardice. Sometimes it's appropriate to leave something to an audience's interpretation. This time, it just wasn't. This was not one of Tony's dream sequences. It's not a cubist painting. This is a show that has prided itself on realism. You can't pull a bait-and-switch like that at the last minute.
    Exactly. Excellent post, yet again Bonham. I'm not a sheep and I'm not an idiot, but I did think the ending sucked. I don't need everything wrapped up in a little bow, but I would have appreciated some coherence in the finale. After investing years of my viewing time in The Sopranos, I'm sorry but that ending left me feeling ripped off. It wouldn't have mattered if Tony got whacked or didn't get whacked, I would have liked a little finality to the story. Something concrete. The whole episode seemed uninspired and disjointed. Like the writers were at such a loss to do anything, that they chose to do nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacific breeze View Post
    They shot 3 different endings, even the actors didn't know which one they would use. He's been honest about wanting to make movies, but he's also said time and time again that he's through with The Sopranos -- time will tell if he meant it.
    Yeah, I heard they shot three different endings. The rumor going around is that when the final episodes come out on DVD that they'll have all of the endings. But, you're right, only time will tell if he wants to make a movie. But, then again, even if Chase doesn't want to make a movie, and HBO does they'll do it without him if they can get the cast to do it.

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    Hahahaha this ending sounds awesome.

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    Okay, so I will play devil's advocate. Do you all think that maybe the ending was too smart for some people? By that I mean that the majority of the shows on are really dumbed down. So some people are used to having it literally spelled out for them. And that the viewers who are up in arms about the ending, never truly understood the writing on the show. They were all about the surface stuff, never digging deeper than the obvious. What do you think?
    Absolutely agree.


    Chase is far from dumb. This is already reaching Star Trek territory in terms of theories, etc. What more could a Creator/Writer want???
    hahhaahaha....some friends were over for dinner last night and we were discussing the show and kept saying 'remember in season whatever, when such and such happened' and then we realized we were verging on trekkie teritory. This is, hands down, the greatest show ever. I love the ending, I love everything about it and could discuss which season is best and why for years. Chase is a genuis.
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    ^ yeah I do this every day at lunch; i think everyones a bit sick of it

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    ^^That's why I only hang out with fellow Sopranos fans! OK, a couple of people are not fans but boy are they fed up with the endless discussions.
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    CNN has a good longish article here weighing the "Genius" vs. "Terrible" opinions of the finale. They do bring up a good point: "...in retrospect, aren't unanswered questions in perfect keeping with the moral ambiguity that's infused the whole series? And aren't loose ends a huge part of life?"

    Yeah, that's why I don't like it so much in my entertainment. And since I hated existential writing with a passion (The Stranger seriously infuriated me), I'm siding with the "it was terrible" opinion of some Hollywood analyst named Nikke Finke who was quoted in the article:

    "What a ridiculously disappointing end. ... Even if David Chase ... was demonstrating the existential and endless loop of Tony's life or the moments before the hit that causes his death, it still robbed the audience of visual closure. And if it were done to segue into a motion picture sequel, then that kind of crass commercialism shouldn't be tolerated."

    I just think he could have made the same point in much less disappointing way, without a bloodbath even. What with him being a genius and all.

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    Now, he sounds like a smart man (Nikke Finke).

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    I think the ending points to the essential bleakness of the life and was perfect.
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    exactly! in life there isn't always closure! and @ lunch i just have to keep my mouth shut at all the idiot conclusions they keep coming up with

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    Has anyone seen Maxium's ending? I will see if I can put it on here.

    Here: Sopranos Alternate Ending Video Funny - Maxim Online Video Channel

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    also i've read and heard that only 1 ending was ever written or shot and that it was just edited differently in the final FINAL version.

    to me; Tony isn't dead and can't be, but I know a lot of ppl think that

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