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    I'm reading the book right now and plan to see the movie. Saw a special on it on TV One today, it was nice to hear all the various actors talk about it.

    I read somewhere yesterday that Mariah's mustache was her own ...

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    It seemed to me that Precious was noticeably more feisty & sassy in her scenes with the social worker (Mariah). Curious if anybody else saw it that way.
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    This movie looks so amazing....I'm afraid to see it because I know I'm going to cry my eyes out. Honestly, how many of you cried?

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    I cried a few times. There's this one scene where you couldn't help but to cry.
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    There are few movies that I actually WANT to see, and this is one of em. I haven't read the book, but everything I have heard about it is awesome.

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    The Problem with 'Precious'
    She's illiterate, fat, abused, and lonely. But that's only half the story.



    Depending on who you are, where you grew up, and, frankly, the color of your skin, you'll most likely react in one of two ways to Precious: Based on the Novel 'Push' by Sapphire. The film tells the story of Claireece (Precious) Jones and her struggle to survive a life overfull with misery. Pregnant for the second time with a child fathered by her own father, abused physically, emotionally, and sexually by her mother, Precious is also illiterate, obese, and friendless. Precious is not an easy movie to watch, and there are people in the black community who wish that you wouldn't. They insist that it is yet another stereotypical, demonizing representation of black people. The other camp, however, is thrilled to see a depiction of a young African-American woman that, while heartbreaking, is a portrait of the black experience that has been overlooked on the sunny horizon that stretches from The Cosby Showto House of Payne. Unfortunately, both of those reactions miss the movie's most searing message.


    I wish I could agree with those who say Precious is just one more movie that feeds our vision of ourselves as victims. Even that would have been better than what lies underneath: the fact that black people have begun to accept as unchangeable the lot of those stuck in the ghetto. How else to explain that while the film is set in 1987, no one seems outraged that so little has changed in the inner city in the more than 20 years since? Precious is a period piece that feels like a documentary. The public-education system is still failing to raise graduation rates above 50 percent in the worst neighborhoods. The public-welfare system has yet to offer a real path out of poverty, and child-protection services is still struggling to protect children. While I agree that we've gotten too comfortable seeing ourselves on film as martyrs and underdogs, so what? The real devastation at the heart of this film is that it can't offer Precious a more concrete way out of her predicament. Yes, Precious is changed at the end of the movie, able not only to read and write but also to move toward a better life. But that isn't enough. I wanted just a hint that she would also escape the hell that was (is) urban poverty. Precious was lucky to find the alternative school that could help her. But that's fiction. In reality, there are far more Preciouses than there are teachers to help them. Movies such as this one allow us to forget that.


    Still, I understand people who complain about the lack of positive role models more than those who applaud just for telling this story. In their admiration of Precious's strength and resilience, these people also implicitly accept the status quo. Precious's parents are certainly villains, but they are also red herrings. Her situation feels so extreme that we lose sight of the bigger picture. It becomes too hard to summon up any more outrage at the social worker who never figures out that something awful is happening in Precious's home, or at the well-meaning civil servant who can't help Precious beyond finding her a job for $2.12 an hour, or at the teacher who gave Precious an A-minus in English when she can't read. I'm tired of movies presenting black people as grateful to find a helping hand to rise above their abusers. Not because we've seen this movie before—starring Sidney Poitier, Michelle Pfeiffer, Hilary Swank, Morgan Freeman, and even Matthew Perry—but because the story never changes. How about a "based on a true story" tear-jerker that ends with some tangible improvements in the lives of impoverished children? Where's the African-American Norma Rae or Silkwood? Hell, I'd even take an all-black remake of Brubaker. Anything that sends the message that one person—even one who is poor, black, fat, female, and abused—can change the system. Then I won't feel like my tears have gone to waste.

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    I tried reading the book a while ago...only got about ten pages in because the style of writing irritated me, unfortunately. Glad they've made it into a film...anyone seen it yet?

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    um,did you bother to read the thread?
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    Saw it today. Thought it was fantastic. Monique made me cry, she was so believable.

    Unfortunately I was seated next to two women who must have thought they were at a Disney movie. They spent the entire movie tsk tsking and gasping. What the hell did they think it was going to be about, that is what I was thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palermo View Post
    Saw it today. Thought it was fantastic. Monique made me cry, she was so believable.

    Unfortunately I was seated next to two women who must have thought they were at a Disney movie. They spent the entire movie tsk tsking and gasping. What the hell did they think it was going to be about, that is what I was thinking.

    Oldtimers, was Miss Rain's live in the girl who used to be on Different World?
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    That's it! Got the old shows confused. Thanks Diva!

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    That article up there ^^^ irritates me.

    Anything that sends the message that one person—even one who is poor, black, fat, female, and abused—can change the system. Then I won't feel like my tears have gone to waste.

    Sorry, I got caught up in the girl's life & personal story but I should have been channeling outrage at the bigger issue of urban poverty... Apparently, stories are useless unless they come with big plans for fixin' the big problems of the world. Since Precious couldn't abolish urban poverty, her story shouldn't have been told?
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    LynnieD, I’m on the same platform as you! Eager to see the movie.

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    Just saw this movie last night. It was really, really good. Couldn't believe how good Mo'nique was in it. That last scene with her and Precious and Mariah is just heartbreaking. Agree with above--no real tear-jerking moments. Though the scene with Mo'nique and the baby was just heartbreaking...

    Hope that Mo'nique wins some awards for her acting chops. I was really impressed.

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