Intervention

[olivia720]

OK just watching the new one tonight with the banker/alcoholic.

This story had a lot of interesting aspects. His mother was a higher up drug dealer and did two years in prison. He witnessed her being robbed when he was nine.

The biggest difference is he actually still held down his job. He still managed to "function" although he did still have to move in with his mother.

His parents have let him down in serious ways over the years.

he's been sober for seven months so far.

[hawaii girl]

i'm really behind in my tivo...i thought this was a decent episode, but i was way more interested in the parents...sounds like they have a story worth telling!

[stylejunkiex]

In an attempt to kind of explain why cutters do what they do:
Aside from the attention getting factor of cutting, which in most cases is really a characteristic of more of a pseudo-cutter, cutting gives someone an emotional release. The best way I can describe it is as a distraction tactic-- you focus on the physical pain youre causing yourself at the moment rather than the emotional pain that something or someone else might be causing you at any given moment. Cutters also see it as a sort of punishment.. for a failure or a past action. By mutilating their bodies, they give themselves a constant reminder of their previous feelings of failure and regret. There is also the factor of control-- you can control when, where, and how to cut yourself.. most people cant control the emotional pain associated with depression. It's a conundrum because in an attempt to make yourself feel better, you're actually making yourself hurt, but it gives people a sense of comfort in knowing that their depression hasn't caused them to become numb to physical pain.. like I said: it's a way to get someone's focus off of the mental anguish of mental illness. That's best way for me to describe it, but I dont blame you if you still dont understand the mentality most cutters have.

[Picara]

I just watched the pizza parlor kid. All I can say is enablers, enablers, enablers. I just pray my kids never get into drugs because what are you suppose to do? I can understand why they took him back. Maybe he would end up dead. Sure he's dying slowly from drugs, but to put him out to die on the street? Maybe he would pull himself up by the bootstraps, but maybe not. Ifelt so sorry for the mother and grandmother. That kid was such a selfish brat. He needed a swift kick in the ass at the age of five. Maybe that was the problem.

[AliceInWonderland]

^ omg the pizza kid was the worst! and his family was even worse than him such a damn shame i really dont have hope for that kid...

[olivia720]

Originally Posted by stylejunkiex

In an attempt to kind of explain why cutters do what they do:
Aside from the attention getting factor of cutting, which in most cases is really a characteristic of more of a pseudo-cutter, cutting gives someone an emotional release. The best way I can describe it is as a distraction tactic-- you focus on the physical pain youre causing yourself at the moment rather than the emotional pain that something or someone else might be causing you at any given moment. Cutters also see it as a sort of punishment.. for a failure or a past action. By mutilating their bodies, they give themselves a constant reminder of their previous feelings of failure and regret. There is also the factor of control-- you can control when, where, and how to cut yourself.. most people cant control the emotional pain associated with depression. It's a conundrum because in an attempt to make yourself feel better, you're actually making yourself hurt, but it gives people a sense of comfort in knowing that their depression hasn't caused them to become numb to physical pain.. like I said: it's a way to get someone's focus off of the mental anguish of mental illness. That's best way for me to describe it, but I dont blame you if you still dont understand the mentality most cutters have.

I can def understand this . . . it makes sense to me now. took me awhile to figure it out. but this is a good explanation. . . thanks.

did the pizza parlor kid agree to go to treatment? How did it end?

[NoDayButToday]

He went to treatment once, got kicked out for using. His dad flew him back home, he was living with his dad, using worse than before. Then his dad called the producers begging for another chance, and another treatment facility took the kid in. He's still in treatment now and had 1 relapse since, and has been sober since mid-March.

[olivia720]

well . . . good luck to him. but who knows. I dont know if he has what it takes to overcome that.

[NoDayButToday]

Oh yeah, his mom started attending Al-Anon, his father got no treatment. I hate to say it, but with the environment he'd eventually be going back to, I don't have a lot of hope for him. I really hope he is able to overcome it, but the environment isn't really the best.

[stylejunkiex]

Nothing nothing NOTHING compares to the woman that was addicted to god knows what (I think it might have been heroin or meth).. she would lie around her house naked.. throw food at her sister.. go outside and scream at the people walking by in her underwear.. I think she eventually got arrested and her family finally decided to stop helping her.. it was like watching a train wreck. Horrible.

[misskris]

I saw that one too, her family was doing everything they could for her and she basically appeared to be in drug fueled psychosis. They took care of her as best they could and she repayed them by screaming and throwing food. That woman was a disgusting example of how drugs can permanently alter a personality.

[olivia720]

ITA. I saw that one too, and I think she's the worst I've seen. Shocking even by intervention show standards. Jesus Christ was that girl an undescribable mess!

[A*O]

You know what I can't understand? WHY do the families/enablers let their kids/spouses/whatever get into such a deep pile of shit/addiction before they suddenly wake up and think "Dur, it's time to get some help". As a parent of teenage kids if I saw them obviously using drugs, alcohol, gambling AND I WAS PAYING FOR IT surely it's a no-brainer?? Half the time with these retards it's not the addicts who need an intervention, it's their doofus families and friends.

[hawaii girl]

Originally Posted by stylejunkiex

In an attempt to kind of explain why cutters do what they do:
Aside from the attention getting factor of cutting, which in most cases is really a characteristic of more of a pseudo-cutter, cutting gives someone an emotional release. The best way I can describe it is as a distraction tactic-- you focus on the physical pain youre causing yourself at the moment rather than the emotional pain that something or someone else might be causing you at any given moment. Cutters also see it as a sort of punishment.. for a failure or a past action. By mutilating their bodies, they give themselves a constant reminder of their previous feelings of failure and regret. There is also the factor of control-- you can control when, where, and how to cut yourself.. most people cant control the emotional pain associated with depression. It's a conundrum because in an attempt to make yourself feel better, you're actually making yourself hurt, but it gives people a sense of comfort in knowing that their depression hasn't caused them to become numb to physical pain.. like I said: it's a way to get someone's focus off of the mental anguish of mental illness. That's best way for me to describe it, but I dont blame you if you still dont understand the mentality most cutters have.

ok...i think that was for me? at any rate...thank you. beautiful / painful description.

[blissfullyunaware]

Originally Posted by A*O

You know what I can't understand? WHY do the families/enablers let their kids/spouses/whatever get into such a deep pile of shit/addiction before they suddenly wake up and think "Dur, it's time to get some help". As a parent of teenage kids if I saw them obviously using drugs, alcohol, gambling AND I WAS PAYING FOR IT surely it's a no-brainer?? Half the time with these retards it's not the addicts who need an intervention, it's their doofus families and friends.

LOL-We think alike.I'm still addicted to Intervention though, I usually watch it every week!