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    I've read all 3 of the books by Thomas Harris and seen the movies. On the show it's sort of ambiguous as to whether or not he's feeding them victim chow. We are assuming he is based on what we know of the character. It's very unnerving.

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    I read the books years ago and just re-watched Red Dragon.
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    Red Dragon was the reason I wanted to work as a criminal profiler.

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    Great episode last night, but like I said before, I wish people would stop eating dinner with Hannibal! So unsettling!

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    But...is he not the host with the most?! Such a sophisticated and amiable host he is.

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    When he mentioned that he picked the mushrooms himself, I almost got sick.
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    This show is getting tedious and repetitive. I am kind of bored with it.

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    Mads Mikkelsen is wonderful

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    I love this show and Mads! Liked him since Casino Royal. He's great!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bonnie lass View Post
    I wish Jack would stop eating dinner at Lecter's place.
    One thing I really respect about this show is that they could be mimicking Dexter's very broad use of black/grotesque humor, but rather, they are keeping it subtle. Comparatively. Harris is not a very humorous writer and of course the original SOTL film was incredibly, beautifully dark and sad.

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    This is the guy who played the baddie in Casino Royale, right? Love him!
    Yes! Le Chiffre! I like him. I'm not sure he would have been my choice to play Hannibal but he's doing a very stylish job with the part. I...would like to see him cut loose a little more, no pun intended. Of course during this period in time, Lecter IS hiding much of his true self from people--unlike the Lecter we meet later in SOTL, who has no reason to hide much of anything anymore.

    But I think it's important to remember that Lecter is not really a cool character. He is a brilliant, decadent savage who wears a relatively thin veneer of sophistication over a tumult of madness. His intellect helps sustain the illusion of civilization, but I think the viewer should sense an underlying danger, an edge of violence and rage beneath the mask, and I'm not sure this actor is getting that. He's a bit too chilly and implacable. But a very, very interesting choice for the part, nevertheless.

    Only things I do not like about this show are some other aspects of Hannibal. His office is wrong. Not luxurious enough, not old/classic enough, not dark enough. Too much light and air. It doesn't have that sensuous aspect that I always associate with Lecter. His suits are wrong too imo. I mean who knows but I for one cannot imagine Dr. Hannibal Lecter EVER EVER EVER wearing anything even remotely resembling plaid or check. NO. He's all soft, rich colors and pure ivory shirts and dark woven ties. Silk, cashmere, that sort of thing. NOT a "Mannix" type suit.

    (Did you ever notice that Mannix wore the worst suits ever seen on TV? No? Well, he did. A mild example: )

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    But...is he not the host with the most?! Such a sophisticated and amiable host he is.
    Always with the perfect wine choice, too!

    I'm impressed with this show. SOTL is possibly my favorite film (yeah really) and I am also fairly partial to both the Red Dragon films (the first one was called "Manhunter".) But my fondness for the books stopped after the first sequel--and that, I thought, was pretty bad. Harris is an entertainingly weird writer, but he's pretty over-the-top/Grand Guignol. Jonathan Demme and his team were the perfect modulating influence, turning Harris's borderline schlock into something remarkably effective and moving.

    The team behind this show seem to have a similar mindset and approach--it even has some of the look of SOTL, crossed with the original "X-Files"--not a glossy crime show nor a European art film look. It's dark, rainy, moody, full of surreal imagery and dark reds and greens and grays. The whole feel and presentation draw you into a gruesome yet dreamlike mood; so the horrible images you see are more haunting and intriguing than a shock effect kind of thing.

    Dancy is really, really good. He could be annoying/whiny but he isn't, and I love Lawrence Fishburne. All the supporting cast is terrific, and the writing is NOT full of overtly ridiculous plot holes and inconsistencies (sorry, Dexter...but...you suck with this lately.)

    I'm really stunned to see this on NBC. Therefore, I predict that they will probably cancel it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathie_Moffett View Post
    Only things I do not like about this show are some other aspects of Hannibal. His office is wrong. Not luxurious enough, not old/classic enough, not dark enough. Too much light and air. It doesn't have that sensuous aspect that I always associate with Lecter. His suits are wrong too imo. I mean who knows but I for one cannot imagine Dr. Hannibal Lecter EVER EVER EVER wearing anything even remotely resembling plaid or check. NO. He's all soft, rich colors and pure ivory shirts and dark woven ties. Silk, cashmere, that sort of thing. NOT a "Mannix" type suit.
    I've only watched the first episode and those are some of the very things that jarred on me. Hannibal didn't seem put together right, he lacked style, suave and the sort of magnetism that I felt were essential parts of Lecter. I might give the second episode a chance over Sunday dinner if the MIL has recorded it but right now I don't feel like I want to go out of my way to watch it.
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    Having watched another excellent ep the other night, I have to add that although those aspects still don't seem correct to me, Mikkelsen's performance and characterization are getting more and more intense and interesting, and it's making up for the other stuff for me. I just watched all the episodes in sequence recently to catch up, and the show really does get better as it goes along. Thankfully. The scenes with Gillian Anderson, particularly, are just scorching with weird subcurrents of energy. She's brilliant in it, it's a VERY different character from Scully and she nails it. She and Mikkelsen have that thing you can't predict--great, if unnerving, chemistry.

    I think it's very hard for viewers AND actors/writers to move beyond Hopkins' Lecter. He was just so brilliant, so overwhelming in the role. The show's producer himself noted they had to get a very different type of actor and approach the part from a totally different perspective, because to even TRY to reference Hopkins in any way--"you'd get slain" was I think how he put it! True.
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    ‘Hannibal’ Renewed By NBC For Season 2



    More than two weeks after its upfront presentation, NBC has decided the fate of its last remaining bubble series, giving dramaHannibal a 13-episode second-season renewal for a return next midseason or later. The series, based on the characters from Thomas Harris’ novelRed Dragon, was developed for television by Bryan Fuller, who executive produces. “We’re so proud of Bryan’s vision for a show that is richly textured, psychologically complex, and very compelling,” NBC Entertainment president Jennifer Salke said. “There are many great stories still to be told.”Hannibal got off to a solid ratings start and was in serious contention for an early renewal. The numbers eventually tapered off, and NBC put the renewal decision on hold. Hannibal was well reviewed, and there overtures from at least one cable network in case NBC passed on a second season. Additionally, Amazon, which carries repeats of the show, had expressed serious interest in taking it on.Hannibal, from Gaumont International Television, is produced under a different model at a license fee that is a fraction of what dramas with similar production values cost.Through its eight original telecasts to date, Hannibal is averaging a 2.0/6 share in adults 18-49 and 4.7 million viewers overall in “most current” Nielsen numbers. According to NBC, Hannibal is the youngest drama on ABC, CBS and NBC, with a median age of 45.7. It’s also an upscale drama, indexing at a 111 among adults 18-49 living in homes with $100K+ incomes. Additionally, Hannibal is heavily time-shifted, with its 18-49 rating growing by 75% going from next-day “live plus same day” ratings to “live plus seven day.”The series made headlines in April when an episode featuring children-turned-murderers was pulled upon Fuller’s request and the NBC affiliate in Salt Lake City dropped the series.Hannibal stars Hugh Dancy as expert criminal profiler Will Graham, who has a unique ability to peer into the mind of serial killers. Mads Mikkelsen stars as Dr. Hannibal Lecter, a psychiatrist who is helping with the cases and, unbeknownst to Will, is a serial killer himself. Laurence Fishburne stars as Jack Crawford, the head of the FBI’s Behavioral Science Unit. Caroline Dhavernas and Hettienne Park also co-star. In addition to Fuller, Martha De Laurentiis, Katie O’Connell, Elisa Roth, Stephen Lightfoot, Sidonie Dumas and Christophe Riandee also serve as executive producers. The series is produced by Gaumont in association with Sony Pictures Television Networks as well as Dino De Laurentiis Co. and Living Dead Guy Prods. Hannibal has been a strong ratings performer for SPTN’s AXN channel throughout Europe, Latin America and Asia Pacific.

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    Yay!
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    I loved Mads in After the Wedding.
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