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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterslide View Post

    The "sex" scene was very well done, all things considered. They did an incredible job with making that ordeal as sexless and passionless as possible, which makes it even more traumatic to watch.
    I have to admit, this scene got to me because it echoed my own experience with infertility. I felt for the wife, the humiliation and inadequacy of going through the clinical motions, being very literally removed from and on the outside of the act of conception. I cried right along with her.

    Then on Offred's side, there's the fact that it's sanctioned rape. *sigh*
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    I loved Commander couldn't get an erection. I laughed. Sorry.

    The doctor who offered to "help" Offred, was he sincere? Good thing she didn't. The ceremony occurs once a month and since he couldn't get up and the doctor believes the Commander is sterile. Whoa!!

    After today's news's regarding the health care bill, this is where are daughters/granddaughters are headed. Think about it? Doesn't it appear things are falling into place for rich males? Let's face it, men are men, and it won't matter what political party they are, they will join the mob of sanctioned rape. Men care about two things, money and sex. Everything else is extra. Even Freud admitted to that, however, in order to not 'offend' the pious language, he referred to it as love and work. Go ahead and bash me. I don't care. But when MEN declare rape is a pre-existing condition, it says it's our fault. Viagra is fully covered for their tiny limp dicks.
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    ^^I was having a mini breakdown yesterday reading about the healthcare bill and thinking these very same things. And so much anger at those who would minimize and ridicule the possibility of things like the Handmaid premise actually happening. But that's how supremely fucked up things happen, when people *don't* freak out at the beginning stages.

    It is actually starting to offend me when people are all "calm down, that would never happen" and rationalize away all the alarming, unacceptable things being pushed through. Yeah just like the holocaust and other atrocities could never happen, huh?

    *btw, I caved and did the free hulu trial. I figure I'll end up paying $8 to watch all 10 episodes, then I'll cancel.
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    Loved the book and the first film made from it with Natasha Richardson. Not a huge fan of Elizabeth Moss.
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    Has no one watched the most recent episode? I'm really impressed with Elizabeth Moss' acting. Great ep.
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    The book is great, I havent had a chance to watch the new TV Series. I cant wait to watch it though, looks so eerie and dark.
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    I'd wait until all 10 eps air and then get the free one month trial. The episode last night was so heartbreaking. I can't even imagine what the husband had gone through. When he was hugging the stuffed animal and shoe is the forest was so sad.

    I just got the book on my kindle and am planning to start reading it in the next little bit.
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    This is a remarkable series. I had Netflix and Amazon and ditched Amazon for Hulu. I just finished a 2 day marathon. This is so well done, from the scenery to the acting and well the story really hits home of course. YIKES. I hear the ending in the book just leaves you hanging and many are disappointed. I loved the episode at Jezebels.......she finally got to be with Moira....and of course, men will never give up their T & A or their guns. Ya baby I love this series. April 25, second season starts.

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    I just finished and this show is amazing! I never read the book or saw the movie, so I may be missing something... Why are they not just artificially inseminating the women? Also, why does Offred's room/bathroom look like it is from the past? They have cars and laptops, the kitchen looks modern, then they show her bathroom with a toilet from the 1800s and a tub only??

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    Well, it's an older home, so I assume that the bathroom had not been updated as it might have been used for servants/help? It's not that bizarre to have a claw footed tub, I had one at my last house (built in the 20's) and LOVED it. I miss that tub.

    I also assume that they took away anything else modern, ie mirrors, so that she could not harm herself. Having not read the book I don't understand the insemination aspect of it, I guess it's because that's modern technology therefore is bad.

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    How do you know it is an older home? Everything else is modernized and it appears they purposely made this room look like it is from another period in time.

    Why do you think they think modern technology is bad? They have cars, laptops, electronics, etc.

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    The book is set in the 1980s. (1985 I think?) The show adds some newer gadgetry into the show (cell phones, laptops, etc.), but I think the point is that the people that take over move into all the old money old houses with all the old money accoutrements. I've seen those old-fashioned toilets in houses before so I think those are still in use. I think it's also, as far as the show goes, kind of there to give you that feeling you're living centuries ago. (I seem to remember liking Offred's bathtub though?) I think there is a reason and explanation why they only take baths and not showers, but I can't remember what it was. There is a quote about how being in a bath is comforting but you can also run the risk of boiling to death before you know you're dying.

    I think the cell phones and computers are kind of leftover from the time before. There really isn't a huge market for technology since the only people who are allowed to use those things are the 1%.

    I seem to remember they take away the mirrors because they promote vanity. I remember reading that Gabriel Byrne's family was so Catholic that he never looked in a mirror until he was like 15 or something bizarre like that so it's a practice not unheard of and that wasn't even that long ago...

    As for the insemination part, I think they were having issues with fertility for one thing. The majority of the population becomes sterile due to some kind of nuclear holocaust type event. But more importantly, I think they are perverting the Bible with all its talk of seed and multiplying and The Ceremony is just that - a ritual nod to men and women lying together and conceiving. Artificial Insemination is unnatural in the eyes of the god they worship. And then of course, the The Ceremony also drives home the notion that men possess all the power (through force and humiliation), even when its the Handmaids who are the ones giving birth, so basically it's a lot like real life in that respect.



    ETA - And yes, the mirrors were also dangerous because she could use the broken pieces to commit suicide. I think even the windows are made of some kind of shatterproof glass, but I could be making that up.
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    The bath over a shower is supposedly a statement on the difficulty of stopping rebellion. There is a list of banned items for the Handmaid's quarters in the book because they could be used for self harm, but they still allow them the bath and use it as part of the ritual for the Ceremony-even though they could easily drown themselves in the bathtub. There is also a thing about being vulnerable in the bathtub. Plus, they are mostly living in an old fashioned, bible based society that shuns conveniences of the modern era-except for those in power who are able to get the things they want.

    They don't use IVF because their whole point is about living like it was in the bible-before modern technology and medicine and they view the infertility crisis as punishment from God because of how we used technology. Book quote: "We do well to remember our deadly steps that brought us the end of mankind...sexual promiscuity, wide spread abortion, birth control, "test tube" babies, genetic engineering, artificial inseminations. Because of these actions God has punished us. The Old Testament is the sole and only constitution of which the new government of Gilead follow." And, as Waterslide said, original was written in the 1980s when reproductive medicine was even less reliable than it is now.
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    Thank you Waterslide and NoDay for your insight.

    Dolem, thank you for your comments as well. I wasnt trying to be disrespectful, you just came into this with the same prospective that I had, in which there was no back ground or context.

    Looking forward to season 2!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoDayButToday View Post
    The bath over a shower is supposedly a statement on the difficulty of stopping rebellion. There is a list of banned items for the Handmaid's quarters in the book because they could be used for self harm, but they still allow them the bath and use it as part of the ritual for the Ceremony-even though they could easily drown themselves in the bathtub. There is also a thing about being vulnerable in the bathtub. Plus, they are mostly living in an old fashioned, bible based society that shuns conveniences of the modern era-except for those in power who are able to get the things they want.

    They don't use IVF because their whole point is about living like it was in the bible-before modern technology and medicine and they view the infertility crisis as punishment from God because of how we used technology. Book quote: "We do well to remember our deadly steps that brought us the end of mankind...sexual promiscuity, wide spread abortion, birth control, "test tube" babies, genetic engineering, artificial inseminations. Because of these actions God has punished us. The Old Testament is the sole and only constitution of which the new government of Gilead follow." And, as Waterslide said, original was written in the 1980s when reproductive medicine was even less reliable than it is now.
    That was it! I didn't want to dig out my book. LOL I had reread it last year when the show aired and I knew they frowned on science and technology, but couldn't remember if it was the book or the movie or both where they were talking about the crops failing, and forgot about the infertility crisis being about actual punishment for the sexual revolution, abortion, artificial insemination, etc.
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