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    Quote Originally Posted by LynnieD View Post
    My hub is still obsessed w/it all......sigh

    Alright, throwing this out there, was talking to a doctor the other day about the Tour and Lance. And the Dr said that Lance has the easiest way in the world to get around certain doping standards: he is a cancer survivor and may need some follow up 'care' and therefore, its not unusual to get Testosterone due to the type of cancer he, he could be doping legally. That was his opinion. Obviously, I have no clue..just passing it along.

    I dunno...
    I don't know, wouldn't he state this up front if this were the case, because elevated testosterone would show up in tests and he'd have to retroactively explain himself and it'd look bad? Anyway, I think Lance is a HUGE douche. But I'm not convinced he's a doper at all. Why? Because it's a fact that his body produces much less lactic acid than the norm, so this greatly enhances his stamina. Also, his heart is larger than the norm, so is able to pump more blood/pump more efficiently. In truth, he is just kind of a physical freak, so his advantages are natural and legal, if unfair.
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    ^ here's a good detailed article on his (extraordinary) psychique.

    The Science of Lance Armstrong: Born, and Built, to Win

    As Lance Armstrong cruises to a probable seventh consecutive victory in the Tour de France, the world's premier road cycling event, most of us are left to marvel: How does the man do it?

    Is there something in the 33-year-old Texan's genetic makeup that makes him superhuman? Not if you ask Ed Coyle, director of the Human Performance Laboratory at the University of Texas at Austin.

    Coyle has been testing Armstrong, who will retire from cycling after this Tour de France, for 13 years. The result is a rare comprehensive study of an athlete over his entire career. Coyle's findings were reported in a recent issue of the Journal of Applied Physiology.

    Armstrong clearly has some great genetic advantages.

    His oversized heart can beat over 200 times a minute and thus pump an extraordinarily large volume of blood and oxygen to his legs. His VO2 max—the maximum amount of oxygen his lungs can take in, an important measurement for an endurance athlete—is extremely high.

    But other elite athletes have similarly powerful hearts and lungs. Instead, Coyle says, smarter training may have contributed to giving Armstrong an edge over his competitors.

    Early in his career Armstrong showed only average muscle efficiency—the percentage of chemical energy that the muscles are able to harness to produce power. Higher muscle efficiency means greater production of power.

    From 1992 to 1999, the year of his first Tour de France win, Armstrong was able to increase his muscle efficiency by 8 percent through hard and dedicated training. Coyle says Armstrong is the only human who has been shown to change his muscle efficiency.

    "It was believed that muscle efficiency is something you're born with, that you can't change," Coyle said. "But we've documented that Armstrong has indeed changed it while training intensely."

    By making his muscles 8 percent more efficient, Coyle said, "Armstrong is 8 percent more powerful on the Tour de France"—enough to get his competitors off his wheel.

    Acid Test

    To become a great athlete, a person must first fit the physiological requirements of a given sport. Great basketball players, for example, generally need to be tall.

    "If I put Lance Armstrong in a wrestling contest at the Olympics, I doubt that he would do very well," said William Kraemer, a professor of kinesiology at the University of Connecticut in Storrs.

    According to the University of Texas's Coyle, there are certain physiological traits that a person must have to excel in an endurance sport such as long-distance cycling.

    "To be the best on the planet, you don't have to be superhuman in any of these components, but you can't be weak in any of them," Coyle said.

    In addition to a high VO2 max, Coyle's components include low lactic acid levels, and Armstrong has the lowest levels Coyle has ever seen.

    When people reach exhaustion, their muscles build up acid, which causes the muscles to stop contracting. But Armstrong's muscles produce about half as much acid as the average person's muscles do when they get fatigued. This allows him to recover much faster than other people.

    "You can see when Armstrong races, he can attack better than anybody," Coyle said. "He makes a break, then backs off and then breaks again, wearing [the others] down until they can't recover, and then he just takes off."

    Slow-Twitch Muscle Fibers

    Though Armstrong had a genetic head start in some areas, he did not have an advantage in one area: muscle efficiency.

    Our muscles work much like the cylinders in a car. When air is mixed with gasoline in the cylinders of a car, a small explosion occurs and energy is released. Likewise, the muscles burn the food we eat, they produce raw chemical energy.

    The movement of an engine's pistons allows most cars to capture 5 to 8 percent of that raw energy. In our bodies little chemical motors known as muscle fibers allow us to capture 18 to 23 percent of the energy.

    At 21, Armstrong had a distinctly average 21 percent muscle-efficiency rate. Seven years later that rate had increased to 23 percent, a huge leap.

    Researchers suggest there may be two ways to improve efficiency through training.

    One way is to train for higher maximum capacity—in other words, to increase the upper limit of performance (as a sprinter might). Another way is to train for greater submaximal capacity—to expend less energy for sustained performance (as a marathoner might).

    Armstrong did both.

    "We don't know exactly what accounted for Armstrong's muscular-efficiency change," Coyle said. But he suspects that Armstrong was able to convert fast-twitch muscle fibers to slow-twitch muscle fibers.

    While fast-twitch fibers are good for sprinting, for example, slow-twitch muscle fibers are twice as efficient and are good for endurance sports.

    With more slow-twitch muscle fibers, and increased muscle power, Armstrong is able to move his legs faster. As a result, his pedaling rate has gone up from 85 revolutions per minute to 105.

    Surviving Cancer

    During Coyle's study, Armstrong was diagnosed with cancer and underwent surgery and chemotherapy. Remarkably, Armstrong showed no ill effects from the cancer upon his recovery.

    It has been suggested that Armstrong lost weight from the cancer, making him a leaner (and better) cyclist. But Armstrong's weight eight months after his chemotherapy was the same as before his cancer treatment, according to Coyle.

    However, surviving cancer almost certainly made Armstrong a stronger athlete mentally. Sports scientists agree that Armstrong is one of the most disciplined and focused athletes in the world.

    "[He] is on top of the cycling world because of the combination and interaction of his genetic endowment, years of incredible training, competitive experience, and obsessive drive to achieve and persevere," said Phillip B. Sparling, a professor of applied physiology at the Georgia Institute of Technology in Atlanta.

    It's a combination that's made Armstrong a rarity among men, but still just a man. "Most athletes are happy to perpetuate the myth of the superhuman," Coyle said. "But now that Lance is retiring, I think he'd be the first one to admit that he's not superhuman at all." [source]
    today is the deciding stage. astana ripped apart the peloton. contador has secured the yellow jersey, he's got 4' on andy schleck. there will be a (bit of a) fight over #2 & #3 today. armstrong will have to fight hard to defend his third podium place cause frank schleck is definitely interested. no idea what wiggins is going to do today. he's 15'' behind armstrong so he'll probably try to do something. i like him a lot - he rode a phenomenal tour. not sure what is going to happen on the mont ventoux. it's definitely going to be exciting. it's pretty windy (with wind speeds up to 110km/hour) & cold on the top. tough conditions. i'm secretely hoping that contador will help armstrong somehow - i'd like to see him on the podium in paris. and kl÷den too, in all honesty. but watching armstrong these last 3 weeks - i've come to like him even more. he says he hasn't got the acceleration or punch he used to have so he rides at his own tempo now. he rode a good tour. after 3 years of retirement & with only 6 months of preparation under his belt, he can still be counted among the top 4 or 5 best cyclists. he appears more relaxed, too.

    update :

    contador played his role perfectly - countered every attack of andy schleck. armstrong kept his eyes on frank schleck & bradley wiggins. he was in excellent form, had no trouble following the accelerations & stayed in contador's wheel. they went over the finish line a couple of minutes ago. wheh.

    1. Garate
    2. Martin
    3. A.Schleck
    4. Contador
    5. Armstrong
    6. F. Schleck
    7. Kreuziger

    tomorrow - the podium in paris : #1 alberto contador - 2# andy schleck - 3# lance armstrong.
    Last edited by calcifer; July 25th, 2009 at 09:40 AM.

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    I can't say I'm a fan of Lance's. While I admire his tenacity and all, I don't like him as a person.

    Also, he should never have tried to make a cycling comeback. He should have left cycling alone while he was still on top. Having said that, I have a feeling coming back had little to do with actually winning.

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    ^ he has said that he was returning to cycling because he wants to raise more awareness for livestrong but according to a good friend of his, he wants to prove he rides clean which is totally understandable (it had something to do with his kids, when they're older, reading the doping allegations against him.).
    that, and his family gave him the green light to do it.

    he may not be n˙mero uno but he was fantastic today on the mont ventoux. he never once attacked but he could follow the schlecks. being able to do that at his age proves that his condition is still good & that he rightfully deserves a place in the tour.

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    Third place, very impressive considering he had a collarbone injury and he wasn't able to train as he usually likes to.

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    Congratulations Contador!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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