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Thread: Women blame lads' mags for sexual exploitation - yet are they just as guilty?

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    It's just a body, they all pretty much come with the same parts so it's not like we are seeing anything we haven't before. At least the girls in these magazines take care of their bodies, which is something a lot of women don't do this day and time. I think they are just proud of what they have worked so hard to maintain. Sure, I think some of them are useless and dumb but they still do work hard at maintaining their body, which to me is harder than any job I have ever had. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by blissfullyunaware View Post
    All the women that pose for those magazines are proud of their bodies & want to show them off. This behaviour is pretty pathetic & desperate. I really think it's stupid that people use sex to sell everything.
    Exactly.

    Maybe women should stop posing for magazines in spreads (pun intended) designed for teenage boys and other loser guys.

    And yes, they do make sex seem unsexy. It's skankiness, not sexiness. It's easy to appeal to men's sexual drives.....but women should up the ante by not slutting it up. And you know, these chicks have no right to complain that they're not taken seriously, or that they're not just a sexual object. Maybe if they stop objectifying themselves, we'd actually accomplish more in this world.

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    I blame strippers!
    I also sort of agree with what Sweetie has to say.
    So I read some more of this thread and I find it all quite amusing. Skankiness not sexiness... some men may share that opinion but there is the whole Madonna/Whore thing and men like skanky sometimes; these are men's magazines. Have they done a study in which they survey men who treat women as though they are less and have discovered that it's because of Maxim? Or is that retarded pineapple at the bottom of the pages telling them to objectify the females?
    So these women are doing damage to the "cause" wtf is the cause anyway? I think people who get all up in arms about this crap do damage to the cause. What is it women want? Equality? The only way we can acheive that is by denying our sexuality and becoming some kind of neuter uber woman? That's so fucking backwards.

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    and lets not forget, men strip and pose for raunchy mags too.

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    JKM, I don't believe we have to become masculine and desexualize ourselves. I believe in showing a little cleavage and some leg, knowing when to use sexuality in a healthy way. But this isn't healthy sexuality. It's not sensuality, it's not beauty, it's just pure trash.

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    Well, men generally approach sex differently than women-they're more visual, so where most women tend to like a little higher aesthetic and at least some attempt at artiness in their nude shots, men are a lot easier to please.

    One only has to look at the long history of pornography to see that this 'in your face'-ness is not exactly something new. Porn and erotica has always been around, just a whole lot more hidden than it is now.

    Personally I wouldn't mind a few more women's magazines with hot guys. Men get the bodalicious babes in theirs, and we primarily get...female models? Honestly, where are our gorgeous, scantily clad men? Well, ok, in gay magazines, but again, since they are also geared at men, the models/aesthetic in them are not always interesting to the average woman.

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    yeah... I don't really care either way... although I will admit that while reading Maxim and FHM I eat tubs of ice cream and self loathing! Yum, delicious!

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    Its not about equality or sexuality, its about respect. If some asshole's perspectives on women is shaped by these magazines (which I do believe is true, even if slightly in some men), and then that guy grabs my ass like I want it, or yells out nasty things when I walk by, then yes I am offended. I am not some silly ho with my breasts hanging out, I conduct myself to be respected. Its not about liking sex or your bodies, many respectful women out there don't aid this culture in the objectification of women. Its not about how many men you sleep with, or if you're proud of your body. Its putting yourself out there like your whole self-worth is wrapped up in looking like a cheap trick so you get negative attention from men. That, in my humble opinion, makes all women suffer because as a result, the real women who interact with these men are the ones who suffer, not the girls on the magazines collecting their checks. You don't grab my ass. Don't talk to me like I'm a silly bitch, or you'll be sorry. I conduct myself in a classy manner and I expect women to do the same. I know thats not a popular opinion, but its mine nonetheless.
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    Men have been playing grab ass and yelling shit out of their car windows before these magazines even existed. No one is putting a gun to the models' heads and making them perform fellatio (who was that again?)... Real women suffer? How? Suffering is relative... So what is the next step in "not aiding" this culture of objectification of women? What is the plan of action? Sitting around bitching about magazines or boycotting everything you feel objectifies women? That's like swearing you'll never buy anything made in a sweatshop or swearing you'll never eat produce picked by an underpaid migrant worker. It is idealistic and sounds real nice but damn near impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lily View Post
    JKM, I don't believe we have to become masculine and desexualize ourselves. I believe in showing a little cleavage and some leg, knowing when to use sexuality in a healthy way. But this isn't healthy sexuality. It's not sensuality, it's not beauty, it's just pure trash.
    I totally agree with you, Lily.
    The women look so fake and disposable (like trash) no wonder a lot of people think of them in that way.

    I don't blame the men at all really, just the women.

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    I have never really heard a man put a woman down that was in a magazine. If anything they praise them over the way they look. I think women put them down but I don't really see men doing it just because they are in a magazine. Men yell random stuff and try to pick up normal everyday women too not just babes in magazines.

    Try walking by a construction site and you will see what I am talking about.

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