Wife-beating allowed under sharia law, UAE court rules

**BigBen** · January 24th, 2011, 05:38 PM

Umm, since when does "not so bad" mean fuckall to anything? Do you think the women who get the shit beat out of them (as long as there are no marks!!!!) just walk it off, saying "oh that wasn't as bad as I expected! whew!"

Bullshit. Fuck this.

**sputnik** · January 25th, 2011, 08:42 AM

i wrote an e-mail to the guardian asking what the legal reasons that prompted the entire removal of a news story were... i doubt i'll get a reply.

**piperdiva** · January 25th, 2011, 11:55 AM

And if these women are forced to wear burkas and stuff, who is going to see the marks anyway?

**Sojiita** · January 26th, 2011, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by Tiny Pixie

I understand what you mean, and at first, I had the same reaction, as I was expecting a lot worse judging from the title of the thread.
However, abusing someone, though not "hard" enough as to leave marks is still too bad. What do we make of psychological abuse then? Doesn't leave marks ... is it not that bad then?

It is bad. It is something that should not be tolerated. It is wrong. I was expecting something much worse, so 'not as bad' has more to do with what I was expecting-my expectations of the story.

But on that note...If someone 'psychologically' abuses someone, and let's say also smacks them around leaving no marks(unnacceptable of course)... should they get the same punishment as someone who broke bones, poured acid on faces, set someone on fire?

Is one 'still bad but not as bad' as the other? Should they get the same punishment/sentences then?
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general note:

*And do not think for one minute that I am in 'defense mode' for any of these things, given my well know history on this board concerning these fundamentalist theocratic nations(of all religions) and especially given their generally wretched treatment of women and particularly gay people. mkay?

**olivia** · January 26th, 2011, 02:56 PM

Soj, I think there should be zero tolerance for any of it, particularly in the West.

My influence on Middle Eastern society is nil. But much of it travels here, in the form of societal and religious ritual.

Your parsing of the forms of abuse is valid, but I don't want any of it condoned as a religious exception in any country I live in.

**Sojiita** · January 26th, 2011, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by olivia

Soj, I think there should be zero tolerance for any of it, particularly in the West.

My influence on Middle Eastern society is nil. But much of it travels here, in the form of societal and religious ritual.

Your parsing of the forms of abuse is valid, but I don't want any of it condoned as a religious exception in any country I live in.

zero tolerance is good-but it does not mean that two different things are equally bad. Bad, yes-we can agree on that. And yeah, the last thing I want is a step of any kind towards some kind of theocracy. You should not be able to hide human rights violations behind the cover of 'religious expression'.

I guess I am saying I agree with your post?

**sluce** · January 28th, 2011, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by Sojiita

general note:

*And do not think for one minute that I am in 'defense mode' for any of these things, given my well know history of wearing sparkly pink burkas while discussingthese fundamentalist theocratic nations(of all religions) and especially given their generally wretched treatment of women and particularly gay people. mkay?

There Soj - I fixed it for you.