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Thread: So we spend billions of dollars to throw puppies over cliffs in Iraq?

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    Unfortunately, I watched that video thinking that it must have been some kind of joke. I couldn't imagine that someone would be so shitty to put something like that on film and upload it.

    Quote Originally Posted by crumpet View Post
    At least it wasn't a child.
    Oh,good Christ, why does someone have to pipe up with the 'at least it wasn't a child' whenever something awful happens to an animal or to an adult? That doesn't have anything to do with how horrific this is.
    There's a correlation between those who tend to abuse and thoughtlessly kill animals and those who go on to murder and abuse people. Many studies have found this. I wouldn't be surprised if this guy already has done things to a child or other people that would be equally reprehensible! He threw the puppy like it was a rock or a piece of garbage.

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    I heard on the news that his family's address has been posted on the internet. They've been getting death threats.
    I don't feel sorry for them. Maybe it's my inner bitch coming out to a deafening roar, but I don't feel sorry for them. Someone or something needs to teach that boy about SHAME. That whole family should feel ASHAMED that they have a son who would throw a helpless creature off a cliff for no reason other than his own twisted enjoyment.

    Considering his attitude toward the puppy and his lack of emotional development, it might as well have been a baby to him. I wouldn't put it past him and I certainly wouldn't want him living near me!
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    This is really offensive.

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    Anyone who volunteers to put their life on the line for the rest of us gets my automatic respect. I'm the opposite of you I guess; they (members of the military) have to do something to LOSE mine. I share your feelings on this.

    So anyone who suggests that the video of this puppy could possibly be a jumping-off point for discussion of some pretty terrible things also being done to people in Iraq is somehow off limits? Isn't it possible that someone this twisted also enjoys doing similar things to vulnerable people, including children? I don't understand why mentioning that is so terrible, I really don't.

    It wasn't making the connection between animal cruelty and human cruelty that set me off. It's the 'at least it wasn't a child' comment because that is saying well, it could have been worse, which isn't the point. Things can always be worse. It's like saying that 3,000 people killed in 9/11 was tragic, but at least it wasn't 5,000. The original crime is bad enough on its own and doesn't need to be compared to something else either favoably or unfavorably.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pacific breeze View Post
    So anyone who suggests that the video of this puppy could possibly be a jumping-off point for discussion of some pretty terrible things also being done to people in Iraq is somehow off limits? Isn't it possible that someone this twisted also enjoys doing similar things to vulnerable people, including children? I don't understand why mentioning that is so terrible, I really don't. It's well established that cruelty to animals is linked to cruelty to people. Mentioning one doesn't diminish the other, just as mentioning murdered children doesn't take away from the fact that animals are also murdered. BOTH are wrong, IMO.
    I think it was the way you worded it. "At least it wasn't a child" makes it sound like what this asshole did wasn't all that bad, sort of like oh well, it was just a puppy. If you had written that this guy is a piece of **** and you wouldn't be surprised if he had also done equally horrible things to children and others who are helpless, I bet no one would have taken offense.

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    I think it was the way you worded it.

    Exactamundo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I'm wise enough to know that the vast majority of us are animals lovers and find this deplorable.

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    Bastard hope he gets whats coming to him.

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    Any updates on what has been done to discipline this soldier?
    "I ransacked his drawers when he left me by myself at his place for the first time. That's how we did it in the good old days. Tells me all I need to know about him. He pretends he didn't notice. That's how good relationships start." - Chilly Willy

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    I shouldn't have watched that. I feel so sick to my stomach. I didn't have my speakers on for not wanting to hear it cry. I hope this sick fuck gets and eye for an eye. Don't kill him, but throw his sick ass over a cliff and whatever happens happens.

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    I will not watch the video. I cannot stomach that kind of vile behavior done to innocent animals. This piece of worthless shit should be fucking gassed. Hopefully he gets what's coming to him for doing this shit.

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    I guess it goes to show that no matter how many threads and posts I've made in defense of animals and against animal cruelty and factory farming in my three years and counting here, not to mention posting pics of my own pets and links to resources on the subject of animal stewardship, that it all means nothing simply because I didn't word things in exactly the right way to please everybody reading this thread. No benefit of a doubt could possibly be given. It's not like I sat down and thought, Gee, how can I offend everyone and prove that nothing I've said in years on the subject of animals is true.

    Everyone is so goddamn eager to jump on everybody else around here that it practically requires a lawyer to make a fucking post these days. Sheesh.
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    *hasn't noticed this trend*
    I am from the American CIA and I have a radio in my head. I am going to kill you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mivvi21 View Post
    I will not watch the video. I cannot stomach that kind of vile behavior done to innocent animals. This piece of worthless shit should be fucking gassed. Hopefully he gets what's coming to him for doing this shit.
    I couldn't watch it either. It would stay with me and I dont need video proof that man is sick, twisted and deserving of eternal hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConstanceSpry View Post
    I think it was the way you worded it. "At least it wasn't a child" makes it sound like what this asshole did wasn't all that bad, sort of like oh well, it was just a puppy. If you had written that this guy is a piece of **** and you wouldn't be surprised if he had also done equally horrible things to children and others who are helpless, I bet no one would have taken offense.
    As for saying that the person in question is a shit as the only possible preface to what I did say, I assumed that was a given and did not need to be reiterated for the umpteenth time. But here goes: the man is a shit.

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    ^^^It's okay. I'm actually sorry I got so defensive. I know you've got a lot going on other than just worrying how everything gets worded in every thread on a message board.

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    ^^Thanks, crumpet. I appreciate it. I get a little frustrated sometimes because God knows, I'm not perfect!

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