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Thread: Racist violence drives Romanians from homes in Northern Ireland

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aella View Post
    I live in Athens Greece, and have in the past lived in Bulgaria, both of which have significant Roma populations. My current neighborhood doesn't have many, but I have interacted with a lot of Roma in the past. I've gone to a Roma camp once before.

    I'm by no means an expert, but I can see where your question is leading, and yes, I'm aware of both the stereotype and real issues within that community. I just don't think kneejerk reactions and making categories of "good" Roma and "bad" Roma is a constructive approach.
    Where does my question lead? I was interested who reacts only to a newspaper article and who has a real insight.

    I also think there's a difference between the traveller Romas in NI and Romas who live stationary. The latter can't claim that they are nomads They have to live by the chosen society's rules.

    You know, the weirdest thing is this: on the tram, if a bad looking person comes too close I grab my purse and hold it till the person moves away. If it happens to be a roma person I do the same thing then I'd feel bad about automatically thinking s/he'd be a pickpocket. But I don't feel that guilt if it was a non-roma person. I'd just think he looked nasty and I had every right to be precautious. But if it's a roma person, even in my head I'm not allowed to think or presuppose "bad" things about his/her intentions. I am conditioned to make an issue about it when it should have been enough that s/he looked nasty regardless of his origin.

    Why is that? That's not healthy either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geest View Post

    You know, the weirdest thing is this: on the tram, if a bad looking person comes too close I grab my purse and hold it till the person moves away. If it happens to be a roma person I do the same thing then I'd feel bad about automatically thinking s/he'd be a pickpocket. But I don't feel that guilt if it was a non-roma person. I'd just think he looked nasty and I had every right to be precautious. But if it's a roma person, even in my head I'm not allowed to think or presuppose "bad" things about his/her intentions. I am conditioned to make an issue about it when it should have been enough that s/he looked nasty regardless of his origin.

    Why is that? That's not healthy either.
    Can't help you there, I have an iron grip on my purse by default whenever I'm in a bus/any crowded area.
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    LOOOOOL

    Thanks for the chat
    Have a great day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geest View Post
    "Yes, because there is always a rational reason behind racist attacks. Racists are logical that way. And news are always accurate and never stereotype groups of people. "

    No, you are right. Racist are not logical, true. And about the news, I am so naive, I still believe that some media would actually help causes by spreading the truth, underlying the positive aspects and so on, and so on. Naive much? LOL

    Thanks for posting the info sheet.

    How many of you live in a Roma community or real close to Romas - having mostly Roma neighbours, or a couple of work collegues, schoolmates or having Roma kids in your local nursery?


    I lived in a an area of Stockholm that had a Roma community. Some people were comfortable with it, some not. I didn't care one way or another.
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