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    Are religious kooks a race?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nika_82
    I'm just speechles toI read this...
    I am glad that I live in a country; Germany, that does not allow these dumbfucks to go around and spill their hate. There are limitations to your freedom of speech and they sure have crossed it. -> I know that some Americans find it difficult to understand that there are different laws in countries outside AMerica.
    Do you even have a clue what you are writing about? That just makes me so made to read something like that. If you knew anything about that time you would not be able to write something like that.
    i know PLENTY about "that time", and while I may not agree with the neo-nazi fringe, I do respect their right to free speech. granted, that doesn't give groups the right to burn books belonging to other people. BUT the laws in Germany relating to Nazi related materials are overboard. Like not allowing Germans to own Mein Kampf? say what?! I would think by now the average German is smart enough to read a book and decide for themselves what to think about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrsMarsters
    Okay..um last time I checked their promoting hatred...and also..I have NEVER read a post where Grimm..has promoted hatred/violence against another race..so get your facts straight..anyways.
    except maybe hate and violence towards christians, conservatives and Americans... anyways.

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    except maybe hate and violence towards christians, conservatives and Americans... anyways.
    Christofascists and neoconservatives: only if they come after me or my kind first, which they ALWAYS DO, constantly.

    I've never advocated violence against Americans in general, so screw you too princess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delphinium
    i know PLENTY about "that time", and while I may not agree with the neo-nazi fringe, I do respect their right to free speech.
    How convenient.

    I suppose then you must also respect the rights of protestors who show up at the funerals of American soliders killed in Iraq? I must assume you're opposed to the new laws in some states making it illegal to protest the war within a certain distance of one of these funerals. . .

    since you're so worried about free speech and all.

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    What about peaceful protesters being herded into "free speech zones", kept miles away from the intended target of their protest?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delphinium
    i know PLENTY about "that time", and while I may not agree with the neo-nazi fringe, I do respect their right to free speech. granted, that doesn't give groups the right to burn books belonging to other people. BUT the laws in Germany relating to Nazi related materials are overboard. Like not allowing Germans to own Mein Kampf? say what?! I would think by now the average German is smart enough to read a book and decide for themselves what to think about it.



    except maybe hate and violence towards christians, conservatives and Americans... anyways.


    So, from what I've read you would also respect the right to free speech if a group of al-quaida supporters did something like that? You know praising 9/11 or something like that?
    And thats just stupid because obviously they are not. Otherwise, there would not be incidents like this.
    And I would think that the average American is smart enough to know the bible is not to be taken word for word and yet there are enough of them fighting against the "evils" of teaching evolution in school.
    And I don't think it is appropriate for you to call our nazi-laws overboard because they are not. I think they should be stricter but it is hard for somebody who is not German to understand.
    I'm sorry but I have some problems articulating my thoughts in English, it's just not my first language...

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    ^^ You're doing pretty darn well, fraulein

    And I would think that the average American is smart enough to know the bible is not to be taken word for word
    Now whatever gave you THAT idea?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok
    What about peaceful protesters being herded into "free speech zones", kept miles away from the intended target of their protest?
    Yes, like all the ones that were across the street from the White House in Lafayette Square have been moved by the Presidential goons several blocks away. No longer are you allowed to offer anything but the neoconned opinion within earshot/eyesight of the President. Something is wrong with that type of control, it reeks of what happened in Nazi Germany and more recently in Soviet era Russia. Another step towards socialism.

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    Socialism is good, dear. You mean Stalinism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok
    Socialism is good, dear. You mean Stalinism.
    I did mean Stalinism and old Soviet style Communism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delphinium
    BUT the laws in Germany relating to Nazi related materials are overboard. Like not allowing Germans to own Mein Kampf? say what?! I would think by now the average German is smart enough to read a book and decide for themselves what to think about it.
    While Mein Kampf is currently not in print, it is perfectly legal to buy/own/read it in Germany.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snownoid
    While Mein Kampf is currently not in print, it is perfectly legal to buy/own/read it in Germany.

    Ähhhhm, Mein Kampf is on a list called the "Index", on it are books, cds which content is being viewed as harmful. If something is on the Index it is not allowed to be sold and thus not allowed to be purchased.
    Reading it is not against the law and I don't think owning is either, but I wouldn't know any sensible person who would want to anyway....

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    I actually read most of it last night on a whim, and i'm of 2 minds about it.

    Hitler wasn't stupid in any sense of the word, he was actually quite observant. He knew how to control people through message, visuals, movement and iconography.

    The race related stuff was just patently idiotic, of course. Assumptions built on nothing except some story he had in his head.

    The case against the jews was interesting however, for he did say something of note (not that it's true of course). He mentioned that any nomadic race (jews, gypsies, mongols) does not have a solid base of achievements and improvement from which to draw from, seeing as they are nomads they merely absorb the achievements and knowledge of wherever they settle for a short time, nothing is inherently their own.

    That got me to thinking about european immigrants to north america or otherwise.. they had the accomplishments of their birth countries to draw from, and instead of learning from the natives when they arrived, they mostly just wiped them out.

    Which is better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok
    The case against the jews was interesting however, for he did say something of note (not that it's true of course). He mentioned that any nomadic race (jews, gypsies, mongols) does not have a solid base of achievements and improvement from which to draw from, seeing as they are nomads they merely absorb the achievements and knowledge of wherever they settle for a short time, nothing is inherently their own.
    Interesting indeed if that is the basis of his theories. It is of course flawed, but what do you expect? Sure a nomadic people would not have a solid base of achievements if you are defining that by architecture or monuments, but there is more to a culture than that. People travelling through a more settled community do not simply absorb achievements and knowledge, thay also give. It is an exchange of ideas, not a one-way process.

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    LOl tell that to Hitler!
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