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    Quote Originally Posted by Chilly Willy View Post
    One of the two chicks who pressed charges was bragging on Twitter after meeting Assange - the morning after the alleged molestation/ rape/ removal of condom. Until she discovered that her friend fucked the same guy at the same time, she had no issues with Assange. The same goes for her friend who paid for his bus after he allegedly "raped" her. WTF?

    He was in Sweden for weeks after the women first pressed charges, trying to be available for the authorities. They let him go back then. A few months later this guy becomes a celebrity and a public enemy and all of a sudden there is a rape case that requires Interpol to issue an arrest warrant. Right.

    Can't wait for Wikileaks to publish the cables going back and forth between the Swedes and the Americans regarding this case.
    What is the evidence that the person bragging on Twitter was the person bringing the sexual molestation charge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok View Post
    How long till he suffers an "accident" at the hands of the CIA
    Quote Originally Posted by witchcurlgirl View Post
    He'll have hung himself in his cell before the week is out.
    my thoughts exactly. what's happening here is not a coincidence and i can't believe so many people buy this shit.


    Quote Originally Posted by Chilly Willy View Post
    One of the two chicks who pressed charges was bragging on Twitter after meeting Assange - the morning after the alleged molestation/ rape/ removal of condom. Until she discovered that her friend fucked the same guy at the same time, she had no issues with Assange. The same goes for her friend who paid for his bus after he allegedly "raped" her. WTF?

    He was in Sweden for weeks after the women first pressed charges, trying to be available for the authorities. They let him go back then. A few months later this guy becomes a celebrity and a public enemy and all of a sudden there is a rape case that requires Interpol to issue an arrest warrant. Right.

    Can't wait for Wikileaks to publish the cables going back and forth between the Swedes and the Americans regarding this case.
    chilly, is there an article or something where you read this? i'd like to read about this!
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    The women who lodged a complaint about didn't file the complaint because they found out about each other. But because they found out he behaved in a similar way with each of them. The second woman claims that they had protected consensual sex, but that later, while she was asleep, and could not give consent, he had unprotected sex with her. The reason that the charges were re-filed was apparently because the women were angry about them being dismissed in the first place. Below is a timeline from MSNBC, that was originally printed in the London Daily Mail. It also has a reference to the tweet by the first woman, which I don't think undermines her case:

    Aug. 11: Assange arrives in Stockholm, where he is to be the key speaker at a seminar organized by a group called the Brotherhood Movement.
    London's Daily Mail reports his point of contact is a radical feminist who once held a university post of "campus sexual equity officer." The two had never met but earlier agreed that Assange would stay at her apartment, the Mail stated. She planned to be out of town until the day of the seminar.
    Aug. 14: The woman, identified by Swedish officials only as Miss A, returns to Stockholm, 24 hours earlier than planned. The two go out for dinner, return to the apartment and have sex during which a condom breaks. She would later tell police that Assange used his body weight to hold her down during sex and that she was a victim of "unlawful coercion."
    Aug. 15: Assange delivers his seminar speech and meets another woman who tags along for lunch with friends, the Mail reported, adding that the two then go to a movie where the woman suggests they were "intimate."
    That evening, Miss A hosts a party for Assange at her home, afterward reportedly tweeting this to friends: "Sitting outside ... nearly freezing, with the world’s coolest people. It’s pretty amazing!"
    Aug. 16: The second woman, identified only as Miss W by Swedish officials, calls Assange and they meet in Stockholm. They go by train to her hometown and to her apartment, where they have sex. According to her testimony to police, Assange wore a condom.
    Aug. 17: Miss W later tells police that Assange that morning had unprotected sex with her while she was still asleep.
    Aug. 18: Assange is alleged on this day to have "deliberately molested" Miss A "in a way designed to violate her sexual integrity."

    Soon after, Miss W contacts Miss A, knowing her from the seminar, and confides that she had unprotected sex with Assange, the Mail reported. Miss A says that she, too, had slept with him and reportedly later phones an acquaintance of Assange to relay to him that she wants him out of her apartment.
    Aug. 20: Assange leaves the apartment. The two women go to Stockholm police to seek advice on how to proceed with a complaint by Miss W against Assange, the Mail reported. According to one source, Miss W wanted to know if it was possible to force Assange to undergo an HIV test. Miss A said she was there merely to support Miss W, but she also gives police an account of what had happened between herself and Assange, the Mail reported.
    The female interviewing officer concludes that Miss W had been raped and Miss A subject to sexual molestation. A duty prosecuting attorney agrees Assange should be sought on suspicion of rape.
    Aug. 21: The chief prosecutor dismisses the rape charge and arrest warrant, saying what occurred were no more than minor offenses.

    In the following days, the claimants appeal, and a special prosecutor reopens the case, eventually reissuing the arrest warrant.
    By now the press had gotten hold of the story. Miss A spoke to a Swedish newspaper, saying: "In both cases, the sex had been consensual from the start but had eventually turned into abuse."
    "The accusations were not set up by the Pentagon or anybody else," she added. "The responsibility for what happened to me and the other girl lies with a man with a twisted view of women, who has a problem accepting the word 'no.' "

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    So currently....Julian Assange is being held without bail (after a worldwide manhunt) for having consensual sex with a Swedish woman of legal age because there was some kind of condom problem??!! On a charge that in the US, is not even a violation of the law.....

    And I should buy this whole cockamamie story?

    And supposedly this whole sex smear has nothing to do with Wikileaks, these absurd charges of sexual misconduct are all on the up and up, and this whole bogus fiction to entrap Mr. Assange for pissing off the Powers That Be---is legally legitimate???

    Bwahahahaha.
    I have never seen such a railroading and perversion of justice in my life.

    (and I'm no spring chicken)

    The good news is that with or without Assange, leaks and news of corruption and greed cannot be stopped. This is WWW.I.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azoria View Post
    So currently....Julian Assange is being held without bail (after a worldwide manhunt) for having consensual sex with a Swedish woman of legal age because there was some kind of condom problem??!! On a charge that in the US, is not even a violation of the law.....
    The story said he forced himself on one woman, who apparently didn't consent to sex without a condom. And then he screwed another woman, without a condom, while she was asleep, and not able to consent to him not wearing a condom.

    And obviously these charges would not stop Wikileaks from either collecting or leaking other information. So, the idea that it's a plan to shut Wikileaks up doesn't make a lot of sense. If the U.S. brings espionage charges against Assange or other employees of Wikileaks, THAT would be a plan to shut up Wikileaks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stef View Post
    chilly, is there an article or something where you read this? i'd like to read about this!
    I can only recommend Spiegel Online. They have an A++ coverage, so damn excellent.

    They have a Themenseite on Assange:

    Julian Assange - SPIEGEL ONLINE - Nachrichten

    And this is the article I was referring to:

    Vergewaltigungsvorwurf: Britische Polizei setzt Julian Assange fest - SPIEGEL ONLINE - Nachrichten - Politik

    Quote Originally Posted by MohandasKGanja View Post
    And obviously these charges would not stop Wikileaks from either collecting or leaking other information. So, the idea that it's a plan to shut Wikileaks up doesn't make a lot of sense. If the U.S. brings espionage charges against Assange or other employees of Wikileaks, THAT would be a plan to shut up Wikileaks.
    No offense, but when the American media tells you there is no conspiracy and the foreign media tells you there is one, who do you believe? Remember the supposed weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? Remember how the US media handled that? Haven't you learned anything?

    Wikileaks was one step short from falling apart yesterday. The attempt to destroy them once and for all included two things: US corporations like Mastercard and Paypal dropping Wikileaks, plus the arrest of Assange. Both happened because *gasp* the US government put the people in charge under great pressure.

    I don't care if the removal of a condom is a crime in Sweden or not. Under no circumstances is this an international matter that has to be handled by Interpol. If this guy didn't have the US government by the balls, it would be a non-issue.

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    half my friends in the states have been programmed to think the guy's on a power trip and that he released SUPER SECRET INFORMATION that could totally help terrorists or some shit

    i looked at them like, are you fucking stupid?

    Jesus you people are brainwashed by your media down there
    I am from the American CIA and I have a radio in my head. I am going to kill you.

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    half my friends in the states have been programmed to think the guy's on a power trip and that he released SUPER SECRET INFORMATION that could totally help terrorists or some shit
    For my part, I don't believe I have said that Assange released information that was either getting people killed or going to doom or seriously damage the United States. I do believe that Assange is on a power trip, because being associated with Wikileaks is the only way a preening, rat-faced egotist like Assange is ever going to get laid twice in one week.

    No offense, but when the American media tells you there is no conspiracy and the foreign media tells you there is one, who do you believe? Remember the supposed weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? Remember how the US media handled that? Haven't you learned anything?
    The story I quoted was an MSNBC extract from the London Daily Mail. The London Daily Mail is not the American media. Quite frankly, until proven otherwise, the issue has more to do with European criminal statutes, how they are handled, and how the story is reported than the American media.

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    and the freezing of bank accounts on a technicality, not to mention visa, paypal, mastercard and all the rest refusing to forward donations is which part of all that?
    I am from the American CIA and I have a radio in my head. I am going to kill you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok View Post
    and the freezing of bank accounts on a technicality, not to mention visa, paypal, mastercard and all the rest refusing to forward donations is which part of all that?
    It's fighting fire with fire. If you acquire another country's classified material and then spread it to the world, you'd better be prepared for some blowback.

    However, that does not mean that the United States is behind the charges that the Swedes have lodged.

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    while she was asleep, and could not give consent, he had unprotected sex with her.
    She's one heck of a deep sleeper.
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    How pathetic is his dick that it can't even wake up a woman?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MohandasKGanja View Post
    It's fighting fire with fire. If you acquire another country's classified material and then spread it to the world, you'd better be prepared for some blowback.

    However, that does not mean that the United States is behind the charges that the Swedes have lodged.
    .. and it doesn't concern you that the US government is able to apply that much pressure on for-profit corporate entities despite no law having been broken by Assange? Isn't the melding of corporate and government interests tantamount to fascism?

    If they can apply that much pressure, why can't they do it to the Swedes? Doesn't the convenience of all of this strike you as the least bit... well, convenient?

    Frankly, why even bother having laws if they're merely ignored when it's inconvenient?
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    Quote Originally Posted by greysfang View Post
    How pathetic is his dick that it can't even wake up a woman?
    If by pathetic you mean completely unbelievable.
    "If you are not outraged, then you are not paying attention," Heather Heyer's facebook quote.

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