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Old March 21st, 2006, 09:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Immigrants not Briton's Must Adapt. Take It Or Leave It

I just received this in email, thought some of you may find it interesting, offensive, whatever so here you go...

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cities, not wanting to offend other cultures, didn't put up Xmas
lights. So after hearing that the Birmingham council changed its
opinion and let a Muslim woman have her picture on her driver's license
with her face covered and after hearing of a Primary School in
Birmingham where a boy was told that for PE they could wear Football
League shirts (Aston Villa, Birmingham, West Brom etc) but NOT an
England shirt as it could offend others! This prompted the editorial
below written by a UK citizen. Published in a British tabloid
newspaper.

Quote: IMMIGRANTS, NOT BRITON'S, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It.

I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some
individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on London, we
have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Brits.
However, the dust from the attacks has barely settled and the
"politically correct" crowd begin complaining about the possibility that
our patriotism is offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do
I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to
Britain. However, there are a few things that those who have recently
come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand.

This idea of London being a multicultural community has served only to
dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Britons, we have
our own culture, our own society, and our own language and our own
lifestyle. This culture has been developed over centuries of wars,
struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have
sought freedom. We speak ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic,
Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you
wish to become part of our society, learn the language!

"In God We Trust" is our National Motto. This is not some Christian,
right wing, political slogan. We adopted this motto because Christian
men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is
clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the
walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider
another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our
culture. If St. George's cross offends you, or you don't like "A Fair
Go", then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this
planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and
we really don't care how you did things where you came from.

This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you
every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining,
whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our National Motto,
or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other
great British freedom, "THE RIGHT TO LEAVE". If you aren't happy here
then f#@* off! We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here.

So accept the country YOU accepted. Pretty easy really, when you think
about it. I figure if we all keep passing this to our friends (and
enemies) it will also, sooner or later get back to the complainers, lets
all try, please. No matter how many times you receive it... please
forward it to all you know.
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Old March 21st, 2006, 10:09 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I cannot find any evidence of "In god we trust" being the British national motto. Your e-mail looks suspiciously like this one that I recieved though.

Subject: Be an American
After hearing that the state of Florida changed its opinion and let a Muslim woman have her picture on her driver's license with her face covered, one American had had enough. This is an editorial written by an American citizen, published in a Tampa newspaper. Did quite a job, didn't he?
IMMIGRANTS, NOT AMERICANS, MUST ADAPT. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or his culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Americans. However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the "politically correct" crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to America.
Our population is almost entirely comprised of descendants of immigrants. However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand. This idea of America being a multi cultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity.
As Americans, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle. This culture has been developed over centuries of struggles, trials, and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom. We speak ENGLISH, not Spanish, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, learn the language! "In God We Trust" is our national motto. This is not some Christian, right wing, political slogan. We adopted this motto because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools.
If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture. If Stars and Stripes offend you, or you don't like Uncle Sam, then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet.
We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from.
This is OUR COUNTRY, our land, and our lifestyle. Our First Amendment gives every citizen the right to express his opinion and we will allow you every opportunity to do so. But, once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about our flag, our pledge, our national motto, or our way of life, I highly encourage you to take advantage of one other great American freedom, THE RIGHT TO LEAVE.
Please pass this along if you agree.
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Old March 21st, 2006, 10:14 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: IMMIGRANTS, NOT BRITON'S, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It

If Muslims go to Denmark and impose their views of the prophet
Mohammed on Danish cartoonists, demanding that the Danes
accommodate them,
then surely Danes should be able to go to Shi'ite countries wearing bikinis
or Bermuda shorts and demand that women remove their burqas.

When that happens, I will be truly amazed.
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Old March 21st, 2006, 11:46 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I agree, in principle, with the statement that immigrants must adapt to the society they join. I think it's ridiculous to be PC with Christmas to the point you can't even have a christmas tree or even mention the word Christmas. It's a holiday, put the damn tree up, nobody is offended by a bloody christmas tree. If it's christmas time, and you don't know if someone celebrates it, be friendly with a 'Happy Holidays!'. That's just being polite.

Frankly, I'm tired of the PC crowd too.. you don't have to be PC, just be polite and think a bit! We don't have to make our cultural differences into one big bland oatmeal smear.
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Old March 21st, 2006, 05:07 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I thought the whole point was to enjoy not only your own culture, but other people's as well.

I agree that people should adapt to a certain extent, but the whole "do it or leave" crap is a bit old. Britain wasn't founded on Christian principles by Christian people, Bouddicca anyone? To be honest, I've never heard of "In God we trust.

If you're going to live in another country, I feel you need to adapt, ifo nyl to get along, but there is no reason why people shouldn't retain their own language, culture and religion alongside that.

People need to stop being so overtly sensitive; put a Xmas tree up, and if people of other religions want to put up their own religious articles, the more the merrier. If they don't, that's ok too. Just having respect for other people should be enough.
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Old March 21st, 2006, 08:36 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Slightly OT but a friend of mine who is a hardcore catholic was a little offended when a waitress at a restaurant we ate at said "Happy Holidays~" instead of "Merry Christmas." It's not just the PC folk nowadays who can be too sensitive and get offended too easily.
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Old March 21st, 2006, 08:43 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Looks like some American right wing rant with some changes to it so it appears British. Immigrants should adapt to the country they move to, it's so obnoxious that some don't even learn the national language. I don't care about the religion or culture, but LEARN the language.
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Old March 21st, 2006, 08:44 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Well tell your retard catholic friend that there are multiple religious holidays during that month, so piss off. It's not an exclusively christmas month, and the waitress was just being polite and didn't want to get it wrong.

That's what I dont understand.. 'happy holidays' takes the guesswork out of it, and the intention is the same, and nobody feels left out.

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Old March 21st, 2006, 08:56 PM   #9 (permalink)
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lol, she's a bit of a fanatic. It really wouldn't matter to her that Xmas isn't the only holiday celebrated during that season, cuz her way (or the Christ's way) is the only way and everyone else is going to hell for it
Oh she gets really peeved when ppl spell Christmas Xmas. Her MSN nick back in December read "there is Christ in Christmas," she always has some kinda religious message on her MSN.
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She sounds like a nutter, i don't think i could stand to be in the same room with someone that rabid about some silly old book.
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Moomies, next December, earnestly tell her that you've decided to start celebrating Kwanzaa.
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It does not 'dilute' or undermine your culture or ethnicity if you speak the language of the country you have chosen to live in (or have even been born in). Ditto respecting and observing the law and social conventions of that country. You do not deserve special treatment as an immigrant. I remember a local primary school in the UK where 99% of the kids were of Pakistani descent, usually 2nd or even 3rd generation. Many of them spoke little or no English because their parents didn't. They demanded that the local education dept provide Urdu (?) speaking teachers for the kids so they were not disadvantaged. People suggested that perhaps ESL teachers might be more use but were accused of being 'racist.
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This is an overly simple comment, I know, but if you want life to be just like where you came from, why leave in the first place?
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Old March 21st, 2006, 11:27 PM   #14 (permalink)
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That's what I always think.

Learn the fucking language of the country you're in, it's not the country's job to accomodate your stupid, stubborn ass. Adapt or go back to where you came from.
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Old March 21st, 2006, 11:36 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I suspect the writers of this racist, right-wing rant weren't thinking of solutions such as ESL teachers and the like. I tend to agree about the language issue as I am heartily sick and tired of students who go through the Canadian public school system and graduate to be functionally illiterate and expect special treatment because their parents are immigants. I understand that, but what's YOUR excuse I want to shout at them, but can't.

We have lots of functionally illiterate students of our own. I don't need more to deal with.
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