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    Default Dutch Government Tells Women on the Dole: Find a Husband

    All you need is love, Dutch council tells jobless women




    Unemployed Dutch women are being offered a €1,400 (£1,150) fashion and beauty makeover and free membership of a dating agency to get them off the dole by finding a solvent husband. Single jobseekers will be given a new hairstyle and outfit, and tips from a life coach on how to attract a new partner or a job.

    They will also be given instruction in social and presentation skills and a place on the exclusive matchmaking service Mens & Relatie (People and Relationships), boosted by a professional photograph of their new image. Mens & Relatie claims a 75 per cent success rate in finding long-term partners for its clients.

    The thinking behind the scheme, organised by three councils in Friesland, in the north of the Netherlands, is that finding love helps to get the unemployed off state benefits by improving confidence, ambition and motivation. Some local politicians, however, have criticised it as unethical and a waste of taxpayers’ money.

    “This is a total concept of trying to get people out of social security,” said Radboud Visser, the managing director of Mens & Relatie, which was hired by the three municipalities to find employed new partners for unemployed lonelyhearts. “We know from national statistics that people in a relationship have better health, more happiness, make more money and live longer lives. They make less use of medical systems and social security. So in Friesland they thought, we can try to get people out of social security by bringing them to a nice new husband.”

    Mr Visser said that the first candidate for the scheme had already enrolled. It is available to men and women, but he said he expected most of his clients to be female. “Social security costs €650 a month and Friesland pays us around €650 once — so when they are able to get someone out of social security, they have made their money back after just one month,” he said.

    More than 600 unemployed people are eligible for the scheme in the three councils. However, after publicity, some of it adverse, in the Dutch media, the scheme has been put on hold in one of the councils and put under review in the second, with a spokesman saying they were “reconsidering their plans”.

    Mr Visser has no doubts that the State and the unemployed will benefit. “If you go for a job interview or on an interview for a new partner, it is almost the same thing. You must be sure you look good, you take care of your body and your face and you say the right things.

    “I am sure that people who have done this will be on social security for less time because they will find a job and a partner.”


    All you need is love, Dutch council tells jobless women - Times Online
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    Huh. This kind of shocks me because Holland is pretty progressive. Plus, they all look like pilots of airlines hostesses anyway. Or Ken and Barbie dolls. Take your pick.
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    Meh, this sounds like a semantics problem to me. It says quite clearly they're offering either job counseling and/or relationship help. Citizens have a choice, and if that's what it takes to get people off welfare then so be it.
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    But the point is that they're buying into the idea that women need a man to 'save' them. Which is obviously bullshit and really kind of shocking coming out of Holland.
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    What lines are you reading between, cause I don't see it.
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    Sorry, I just read an article about Dutch women being given lessons on how to make themselves look better to 'catch a man'-
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    Seriously? It also said help them find a job, or are you just ignoring that? I don't see why you don't find it a viable option. There are plenty of people that will shift their lazy asses to find a partner, but won't to find a job. Its a good idea, time will tell if it pans out.
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    The article I read was solely about looking better to find a man. I applaud anyone who helps people find the skills to find a job but seriously, I've been to Holland a number of times and it ain't Walmart types walking the streets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buttmunch View Post
    The article I read was solely about looking better to find a man. I applaud anyone who helps people find the skills to find a job but seriously, I've been to Holland a number of times and it ain't Walmart types walking the streets.

    So you skipped the first paragraph and several others?

    Unemployed Dutch women are being offered a €1,400 (£1,150) fashion and beauty makeover and free membership of a dating agency to get them off the dole by finding a solvent husband. Single jobseekers will be given a new hairstyle and outfit, and tips from a life coach on how to attract a new partner or a job.
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    I think it's the 'new partner or a job' wording.

    I don't think having a partner replaces is on the same level with having the job skills to be able to support yourself and your children.

    But I get that they're trying to help clients who are perhaps stuck in a rut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buttmunch View Post
    Huh. This kind of shocks me because Holland is pretty progressive. Plus, they all look like pilots of airlines hostesses anyway. Or Ken and Barbie dolls. Take your pick.
    No kidding! Every Dutch person I have ever met or seen are model worthy.

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    Hmmm, on first glance, it seems kind of offensive. But, these are women already fully supported by the government, if they improve their job chances or lifestyle chances by getting their faces spackeled and learning how to sit like a lady and not chewing with their mouths open for $150, doesn't seem like a bad idea. I think they might be better served to sell it as improving job oportunities so that the single women can become self-sufficient, but that's semantics.
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    Honestly it is a good idea. Not so much the find a husband bit but about improving self esteem

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