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    Arab nations urged to seek UN ban on slandering religion
    28/02/2006 - 19:29:49

    Arab and Islamic governments should pressure the United Nations to ban the slandering of religions, said more than 200 Arab politicians who renewed their criticism today of the contentious Prophet Muhammad cartoons.

    The call, which was made at the end of a two-day conference at a Dead Sea resort in Jordan, comes amid outrage felt throughout the Islamic world over the publication in a Danish newspaper of a series of cartoons of Islam’s prophet.

    “We urge Arab and Muslim governments to spare no effort to pressure the UN to issue a resolution banning the slandering of religions,” the politicians from 16 Arab countries representing the Arab Inter-Parliamentary Union said in a statement.

    Those who violate such a resolution should face legal action, added the statement.

    Meanwhile, in Doha, Qatar, the furore over the cartoons was described as just a small part of an expanding divide between Islam and the West.

    Attending a UN-sponsored conference aimed at healing the deepening rift, Archbishop Desmond Tutu and another 19 delegates agreed that key ways to bridge the chasm were reaching out to young people and providing more education.

    Even then, they agreed it would take years of dialogue and practical measures before the rift can be healed.

    Tutu said: “What has happened – and the aftermath – has been seen as a symptom of a more serious disease. Had relationships been different, one, the cartoons might not have happened, or if they had, they probably would have been handled differently.”

    “What we face nowadays is not a clash of civilisations but a clash mostly caused by ignorance, arrogance, insensitivity and festering political differences that fuel hostilities,” Turkish minister of state Mehmet Aydin said.

    On the same day in Karachi, Pakistan, more than 5,000 children aged from 8 to 12 years old demonstrated at a rally organised by Pakistan’s largest Islamic group. They chanted “hang those who insulted the prophet” and burned a coffin draped in American, Israeli and Danish flags.

    The European Union on Monday said that although it regretted the cartoons were “considered offensive” by Muslims, it added that freedom of expression “is a fundamental right and an essential element of a democratic discourse."
    They want a complete ban on criticism is what they want.

    Sorry, but if I think your religion and its tenets are fucking stupid, I'm going to say so.

    Take your nazi bullshit elsewhere, thanks. We're all full up on crazy here.
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    Default Re: Arab nations want UN resolution banning "slandering" of religion

    Fuck that! We could not even slander $cientology then!!!!

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    Default Re: Arab nations want UN resolution banning "slandering" of religion

    Slandering/defaming religions is one thing, and criticising actions and/or customs is another thing. I really hope there will be resolution that will ban attacking religions.

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    Default Re: Arab nations want UN resolution banning "slandering" of religion

    *snorts*

    When religions reign themselves in and stop oppressing/slandering people and groups, then they can talk about people throwing it back at them. Religion spreads more hate than the other way around by a fucking LONGSHOT.

    Give me a break, the ol victim complex rears its head again.

    Fuckin whiners.
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    They should shut the hell up before we start droppping nukes on thier dumb asses , nothing makes a bunch of ass backwards people special from not having anyone say anything against you . What makes them think the pussy sin the UN are going to tell Ameicans or anyone for that matter what we can say to whom . Maybe they are unware that this is America , we will say what ever we want to whom ever we want .

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    Yeah, unless it's against christianity cuz then you'll have the nutjob christians after you.

    So yeah.. except for that..
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    Quote Originally Posted by choozen1ne
    They should shut the hell up before we start droppping nukes on thier dumb asses , nothing makes a bunch of ass backwards people special from not having anyone say anything against you . What makes them think the pussy sin the UN are going to tell Ameicans or anyone for that matter what we can say to whom . Maybe they are unware that this is America , we will say what ever we want to whom ever we want .
    exactly you've done it once you will do i twice, nuke runs in the blood of Americans difference though these backwards people are scattered around the world, unfortunately America cannot nuke the whole world, they are too much to be eliminated

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    I'm thinking more and more about reading Ibn Warraq's book, Why I am not a muslim.
    Nope.

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    Default Re: Arab nations want UN resolution banning "slandering" of religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Karizma
    exactly you've done it once you will do i twice, nuke runs in the blood of Americans difference though these backwards people are scattered around the world, unfortunately America cannot nuke the whole world, they are too much to be eliminated
    Yes we can! We will nuke every square inch of this planet if we have to!!!!

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    ^lol, in this case you are going down with us

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    Default Re: Arab nations want UN resolution banning "slandering" of religion

    HALALALALALALALALALALALALA! *middle east war cry*
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    Default Re: Arab nations want UN resolution banning "slandering" of religion

    There's a "Get Your War On" comic strip that has the US making a bomb the shape of the planet, with just the US cut out of it... Probably will happen.

    But COME ON! Stop slandering religion? You mean... stop slandering idiotic bull**it? Stop slandering BRAINWASHING? Racism? Sexism and homophobia? Stop slandering the bribery of 10% of your salary based on some infantile fantasy of an afterlife? Religion SHOULD be slandered, because it's stupid and it creates so much fanaticism. Ick, ick ick. Take all the money and tax breaks wasted on churches and give it to programs that will educate people in science.

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    Default Re: Arab nations want UN resolution banning "slandering" of religion

    They should shut the hell up before we start droppping nukes on thier dumb asses , nothing makes a bunch of ass backwards people special from not having anyone say anything against you . What makes them think the pussy sin the UN are going to tell Ameicans or anyone for that matter what we can say to whom . Maybe they are unware that this is America , we will say what ever we want to whom ever we want .
    I'm hoping that was in just but I have a feeling it wasn't. The middle east is not wholly populated by 'ass backwards' people any more than all of America is. We all have our fair share of nutjobs and intolerant types. Just look at incurious George.
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    Please smile while under the boot

    The self-righteous arrogance with which the West feigns shock at Muslim reactions to humiliation reveals how deeply the colonial attitude runs in the Occident, writes Mulham Assir*
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    "Not only have the whites been guilty of being on the offensive, but by some skilful manoeuvres, they have managed to control the responses of the blacks to the provocation. Not only have they kicked the black, but they have also told him how to react to the kick... He is now beginning to show signs that it is his right and duty to respond to the kick in the way he sees fit." -- Steve Biko, freedom fighter against Apartheid, killed while under police arrest.

    The Western world -- commonly referred to in its own media as the "civilised world" (CW) -- has been shocked by the anti-Islamic cartoons debacle. Well, not exactly shocked by the cartoons, but by the Muslim world's reaction to them. The cartoons represent a simple exercise in free speech by the artists who created them, do they not? Not quite. Not so much a spontaneous expression of free speech as a command performance: the cartoons had been commissioned with what seems to be a deliberate intent to provoke.

    Many opinion pieces -- "civilised" opinion pieces that is -- remind us by way of contrast of the open-mindedness with which Christians are willing to mock their own religious icons and do so freely. That is the proper and -- pardon the repetition -- "civilised" way to react. After all, can one be civilised and object to free speech? It is true that these symbols are a bit shop-worn and the aura of inviolability that used to surround them has thinned as new symbols worthy of worship and taboo protection have emerged, like the Holocaust dogma. Free speech clearly has its restrictions: there are several people at this very moment in the CW's prisons for questioning the literal dogma of the Holocaust.

    Beyond the gratuitous, bigoted insult, the cartoons specifically equate Islam with terrorism (the Prophet shown wearing a bomb with a lit fuse as a turban) and also ascribe resistance to the occupation of Islamic nations to "Islamic fundamentalism" (toting the old "99 virgins" Zionist misrepresentation of the purpose of the Palestinian struggle). Nonetheless, these notions do not shock a Western audience that has been systematically exposed to anti-Arab and anti-Islamic bashing for decades; a campaign exacerbated after the little American holocaust, "9/11".

    Demonisation of Islam and the "clash of civilisations" supposedly instigated by Islam are propaganda measures meant to choke off inquiry into the causes of Muslim anger. President Bush's commission on public diplomacy noted in 2003 that in nine Muslim and Arab nations only 12 per cent of respondents surveyed believed that "Americans respect Arab/Islamic values." It recommended spending a few million dollars on ... propaganda.

    Occasional mealy-mouthed statements by President Bush -- he of the "crusade" gaffe -- that "turro'rists" misrepresent Islam are undercut by his highest honchos. General William Boykin, undersecretary at the Defense Department, infamously stated publicly that when faced with a Muslim "I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol" and that America's enemy was a "spiritual enemy ... called Satan". His boss, Donald Rumsfeld, refused to condemn Boykin's statements, claiming, "We're a free people."

    They would have all cued up at the mike to condemn as "virulently anti-Semitic" a cartoon showing, say, Moses with a Dimona diadem, holding aloft Tables that read "Thou shall expel/imprison/kill them and Thou shalt grab every hilltop, every village."

    The Western media continue to focus precisely on what the cartoons sought to provoke: Muslim anger. Why the riots, the violence, the damage to property? Martin Luther King Jr, who knew a thing or two about the topic, said that riots are the voice of the voiceless. There is no powerful Muslim lobby to flex its muscles, to choreograph an organised protest, to corral advertisers, to threaten any given newspaper with financial ruin, much less to use the levers of government to demand the world's vigilance against the grave danger of anti-Islamism (the phrase anti-Semitism cannot be used by other Semites; it is occupied lexical territory).

    There is, however, another kind of Muslim reaction in the CW: the repeated walk to Canossa of "Muslim community leaders" who are expected to publicly repudiate every incident of "Muslim violence" on the planet. They are what might be called "Muslims on parole". They express regret, disavow "terrorism" (the freelance variety, not state terrorism, which is a civilised necessity leading to democracy) and actually attempt to explain Islam to the viewer. It is a debasing exercise that serves to enhance the Western audience's perception that religion is the root problem; almost never does it touch on the real causes of anger among the millions who happen to be Muslim: oppression, humiliation, demonisation, occupation, expropriation of land and resources, ethnic cleansing, colonialism.

    The ignorant arrogance, bigotry and immorality of the Islam bashers should not be downplayed but the propaganda that sustains it from the top cannot dissimulate the fact that the Western world's clash is not truly with Islam. The CW will clash with any people who: (1) inhabit a land rich in vital natural resources, notably oil, or coveted by land grabbers, or deemed a suitable strategic bridge for world domination; (2) reject so-called civilisers even when they bring the "democracy" gift; (3) have the temerity to contemplate trading in euros instead of dollars. Such people cannot avoid entering a collision course with the CW. They may be Catholic for all the good it does them. Ask Chavez of Venezuela. He also refuses to react properly when being kicked.
    How Muslim of him!
    * The writer is a Lebanese political commentator.
    http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2006/784/op13.htm

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    A lovely, if tired, tirade against the "dogma" of the Holocaust... bias, bias, bias.
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