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    Gee, just like Bush.. tell your people they can speak their minds, but if they say anything besides what you want you destroy them.. even if they belong to your own party.

    NICE.

    Neocons are all the same.

    OTTAWA (CP) - Conservative MP Garth Turner says he expects to be assigned an office in "a renovated washroom somewhere in a forgotten corner of a vermin-infested dank basement" after suggesting a former Liberal resign his seat and seek re-election before taking a Tory cabinet job.

    In his online blog, Turner says he had a series of "unhappy meetings" with caucus officials Thursday over his comments, including one with Prime Minister Stephen Harper. "I think it is now safe to say my career options within the Conservative caucus are seriously limited," writes Turner, a former columnist and Progressive Conservative MP, now representing the Ontario riding of Halton.

    "If you would like a course on how not to be popular in Ottawa, then take a seat."

    Turner said earlier this week that former Liberal cabinet minister David Emerson, a Vancouver-area MP who crossed the floor Monday to take the post of International Trade minister in Harper's cabinet, should step down.

    In what he called a principled position, Turner said all government members - not just cabinet ministers - should be elected as members of the party that forms the government.

    "Anybody who switches parties should go back to the people. To do otherwise is to place politicians above the people when, actually, it's the other way around."

    Turner said his comments were deemed "not helpful."

    Harper has been under fire this week for appointing Emerson and unelected Montrealer Michael Fortier to cabinet.

    Fortier, a Tory organizer who was handed Public Works, will be appointed to the Senate until he can seek election in a Commons seat.

    The appointments, which Harper says were designed to give two of the country's biggest cities representation in cabinet, rankled many Conservative MPs.

    The party had previously contended that floor-crossers like former Conservative Belinda Stronach should have to face the electorate before taking their new seats. And Harper has been a strong advocate of an elected Senate.

    Turner said he had "swallowed with gusto" promises of more free votes, more powerful committees of "free-thinking" MPs, a more responsive government, and an elected and responsible Senate.

    He said Harper's decision to appoint a floor-crossing Liberal and an unelected party official to cabinet "seemed to fly in the face of everything I had told voters about accountability and democracy."

    "It also made me question the whole process."

    Turner, who moved into his constituency office Thursday night, said he knew in advance the potential consequences of taking his stand.

    "Speaking of offices, after today I'm expecting the Whip will be assigning me a renovated washroom somewhere in a forgotten corner of a vermin-infested dank basement in Ottawa," he said. "That should go well with my seat in the House of Commons that will be visible only during lunar eclipses."

    Text of Conservative MP Garth Turner's Internet weblog posted late Thursday:

    Speaking of offices, after today I'm expecting the Whip will be assigning me a renovated washroom somewhere in a forgotten corner of a vermin-infested dank basement in Ottawa. That should go well with my seat in the House of Commons that will be visible only during lunar eclipses.

    Uh-huh. That kind of a day. This one MP came face-to-face with the party machine in a series of unhappy meetings, including one tonight with the prime minister. I think it is now safe to say my career options within the Conservative caucus are seriously limited. If you would like a course on how not to be popular in Ottawa, then take a seat.

    I have written here many times over the past few months about my journey to become an MP again, and why I wanted to return to Ottawa. It was not to be a minister with a limo, but, as I explained, to try and empower elected people more, to make them relevant and free, so the voters would also become more empowered. And I campaigned to advance issues my middle class voters are so concerned with - things those families need and want.

    But, I arrived as the prime minister was appointing a floor-crossing Liberal and an unelected party official to his cabinet, which seemed to fly in the face of everything I had told voters about accountability and democracy. It also made me question the whole process, after eight months of knocking on doors to win my coveted seat in this magnificent stone building on the banks of the Rideau.

    Going from door to door turns a politician into a democrat. At least, it did for me. By the time I got to Parliament Hill, I was infused with the spirit of a new era in government, sated on the belief we would see freedom reign in the chamber and that the days of subjugation of MPs by the prime minister's office were numbered. I had swallowed with gusto promises of more free votes, more powerful committees of free-thinking MPs, more listening to the voters, and an elected and responsible Senate.

    And, most importantly, I had taken that to the people. Change. The election was about change. I asked people in Halton to embrace the Conservatives as a modern, inclusive, mainstream, principled party of honest people committed to changing the system for the better. Finally. Something worth knocking on doors for in the dark and the cold. Something to believe in. Something to run for. Something on the Hill worth coming back for with a passion.

    Sure, I thought the appointment of those two ministers was questionable. And after stating many a time that Belinda Stronach should have sought a by-election after her defection, how could I not say the same obvious thing now? It was simple for my constituents to understand, and simple for me. I did not seek the microphones out, but when they were under my nose and a clear question was asked, I gave a clear answer.

    Everybody who makes up the government should be elected. They should be elected as members of the party that forms the government. Anybody who switches parties should go back to the people. To do otherwise is to place politicians above the people when, actually, it's the other way around.

    But my comments were deemed not helpful, even though I chose them carefully and pulled some punches, suggesting minister Emerson be given a little time before deciding on whether or not to get elected as a Tory.

    Did I know the potential consequences of speaking my mind, or sticking with the principles that brought me to this cold hill? Yeah, I did. I have been an MP before, and a leadership candidate and a cabinet minister. I have the hide to prove it. I know the PMO has a song sheet it wants all caucus members to sing from, and I know what happens when an individual chooses to go his or her own way. I was just hoping this time I would not be asked to choose - between party and principle.

    I chose principle. My deepest loyalty is to what I believe, what I told the voters and what I want Parliament to become. The Emerson affair may indeed blow over. The minister may decide not to take the heat. David may turn into a cabinet star and a national asset. But he should still have the conviction to get elected a member of the team he chose. The same team that I chose, and fought like a warrior to join, helped by hundreds more and supported by tens of thousands of others. How could any member of caucus not privately feel the same?

    A few nights ago, I made some pledges here. I pledged to remember that my job is not to serve the party or the prime minister, but rather the people who sent me here. I pledged to work to enhance the position of MP, because when that happens, the voters win. I pledged to share my MP's power with you every way I could, and to speak up for middle class Canadians.

    That voice may be a little fainter now, coming from that forgotten basement washroom office, but, damn it, it won't quit.
    I am from the American CIA and I have a radio in my head. I am going to kill you.

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    It's curious how Belinda Stronach was called everything from a turncoat to a prostitute by Conservatives when she crossed the floor TWO years after being elected.

    So far no one has called Emerson a prostitute. Double standard, anyone?

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    Well duh, welcome to being conservative. Hypocrisy, party of 122.. cept this guy who bitched.

    I suppose it's not unheard of for 2 or 3 neocons to have a heart and sense of fairness in their sunken chests.
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    I'm sure some do, and they won't last long.

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    Yeah I agree with pacific_breeze. I heard that Belinda has the eye on to take the spot for the leadership of the Liberals.

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    I've heard that, too. I don't quite trust her though -- she seems to think that running a democratic country is the same as running a corporation where she is the boss and accountable to no one -- but maybe she's learning. I hope so, because the Libs needs someone fast!

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    Default Re: Neocon MP finds career options dead after criticizing Harper

    I was hoping for McKenna, that guy was no nonsense.. too bad about him bowing out.
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