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    Quote Originally Posted by AliceInWonderland View Post
    OMFG whoever put rat food in those products should BURN IN HELL! IN FACT WHEN THEY FIND HIS ASS I WILL CUT HIM MYSELF! So fucking infuriating! how the hell can you try to hurt harmless pets!?! thats like messing with children and you have to be a real sick fuck to do that shit!
    This has not been confirmed, but the preliminary belief is that it was not a criminal act, but originated from a toxin used in China to kill rats. The wheat or whatever had originally come from there, and had been sprayed with this shit, though it isn't used as a pesticide in the U.S. There's unrestrained global capitalism for you.

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    ^ Wow that is convoluted and mirky. Im still pissed though and thats not going to change. I hope all these caregivers who lost their pets are reimbursed in some way, i know money is not going to change anything for them but it will help with the bills they incured so they can properly mourn their lost loved ones at least.

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    That makes sense. As soon as I heard rat poison. By the way-all the stores here moved at breakneck speed to get the recalls off the shelf-One man at Petsmart was stunned-he took his puppy into training. When he came out, he said a swarm of people was knocking pet food off the shelf like mad people!
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    When there was another recall like last year (there should be a thread in this forum) Costco didn't pull their dog food off of their shellf. Oh I think the company's name was Diamond Foods. Anyway, we went to return our big sack of dog food and the customer service didn't even know that the food was being recalled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xoxo View Post
    hi mira..let us know if they respond..this pet food thing is getting so out of hand
    I think what they do is put the news items up on their news pages, or blogging pages. There's always something to put there since WalMart is so heinous in so many different ways.

    Quote Originally Posted by moomies View Post
    When there was another recall like last year (there should be a thread in this forum) Costco didn't pull their dog food off of their shellf. Oh I think the company's name was Diamond Foods. Anyway, we went to return our big sack of dog food and the customer service didn't even know that the food was being recalled.
    That is just effed up. I've been listening to the radio all day long and everyone's talking about it. There's no excuse!

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    Really makes one wonder about processed human food as well. Goodness knows where ingredients come from anymore.

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    An ingredient used as a rat poison that is illegal for use in the United States poisoned this batch according to Cornell University reseachers. If they are correct, this doesn't seem accidental to me. More like sabotage or home-grown terrorism. Or Chinese-grown terrorism.
    Luckily our large family has dodged this bullet so far, we feed ours Nine Lives, and Meow Mix.
    From what I have heard, the pet food industry is self-regulated, not under FDA regs. Don't know if that is true or not.
    I think someone did this on purpose...and if I ever get ahold of him, (not likely, but I can dream) he will suffer suffer suffer...AND SUFFER SOME MORE...
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    This is a Petsmart site. It describes contaminated food in great detail that you may have bought from Petsmart.

    If you only buy your pet food only from them, then this may help you.

    PetSmart | Press Room | The Facts
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    well you know what, im not buying shit from china anymore; they obviously have sub-standard standards when it comes to making products and i ain't putting myself at risk of that shit till they get their act together!

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    Pretty much everything is made in China nowadays though I mean even if something is produced in the US/Canada or somewhere else, part of that something prolly came from China...

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    China's 7th largest trading partner in the entire world is not a country like all the rest -- it is WAL-MART. Consumers should think about that.

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    wow manx i had no idea, thx for posting that fact..i am glad all this pet food info is at least coming to light more than in the past..

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    ^ me too though; i will definetly be paying xtra attention to my cat food, although i already do, i just need to make sure it doesnt come from china now!

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    Recall expanded to some dry cat food

    By ANDREW BRIDGES, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 1 minute ago

    WASHINGTON - Federal testing of recalled pet foods turned up a chemical used to make plastics but failed to confirm the presence of a cancer drug also used as rat poison. The recall expanded Friday to include the first dry pet food.

    The Food and Drug Administration said Friday it found melamine in samples of the Menu Foods pet food involved in the original recall and in imported wheat gluten used as an ingredient in the company's wet-style products. Cornell University scientists also found melamine in the urine of sick cats, as well as in the kidney of one cat that died after eating some of the recalled food.

    Meanwhile, Hill's Pet Nutrition recalled its Prescription Diet m/d Feline dry cat food. The food included wheat gluten from the same supplier that Menu Foods used. The recall didn't involve any other Prescription Diet or Science Diet products, said the company, a division of Colgate-Palmolive Co.
    FDA was working to rule out the possibility that the contaminated wheat gluten could have made it into any human food. However, melamine is toxic only in high doses, experts said, leaving its role in the pet deaths unclear.
    Menu Foods recalled 60 million containers of cat and dog food, sold throughout North America under nearly 100 brands, earlier this month after animals died of kidney failure after eating the Canadian company's products. It is not clear how many pets may have been poisoned by the apparently contaminated food, although anecdotal reports suggest hundreds if not thousands have died. The FDA alone has received more than 8,000 complaints; the company, more than 300,000.

    Company officials on Friday would not provide updated numbers of pets sickened or killed by its contaminated product. Pet owners would be compensated for veterinary bills and the deaths of any dogs and cats linked to his company's products, the company said.

    The melamine finding came a week after scientists at the New York State Food Laboratory identified a cancer drug and rat poison called aminopterin as the likely culprit in the pet food. But the FDA said it could not confirm that finding, nor have researchers at the University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey when they looked at tissue samples taken from dead cats. And experts at the University of Guelph detected aminopterin in some samples of the recalled pet food, but only in the parts per billion or trillion range.

    "Biologically, that means nothing. It wouldn't do anything," said Grant Maxie, a veterinary pathologist at the Canadian university. "This is a puzzle."

    Meanwhile, New York officials stuck to their aminopterin finding and pointed out that it was unlikely that melamine could have poisoned any of the animals thought to have died after eating the contaminated pet food. Melamine is used to make plastic kitchen ware and is used as a fertilizer in Asia.

    An FDA official allowed that it wasn't immediately clear whether the melamine was the culprit. The agency's investigation continues, said Stephen F. Sundlof, director of the FDA's Center for Veterinary Medicine.
    In a news conference, Sundlof and other FDA officials said the melamine had contaminated a shipment of wheat gluten imported from China and purchased by Menu Foods from an undisclosed supplier in the United States. At least some of the that wheat gluten was used in all the recalled wet pet food, according to Menu Foods.

    Menu Foods said the only certainty was the imported Chinese product was the likely source of the deadly contamination, even if the actual contaminant remained in doubt.

    "The important point today is that the source of the adulteration has been identified and removed from our system," said Paul Henderson, Menu Foods chief executive officer and president. Henderson suggested his company would pursue legal action against the supplier.

    New York remained confident in its aminopterin finding, said Patrick Hooker, commissioner of the state Department of Agriculture and Markets. Hooker added that neither aminopterin nor melamine should be in pet food, but that it was unclear why the latter substance would be poisonous to the cats in which it was found.

    "While we have no doubt that melamine is present in the recalled pet food, there is not enough known data on the mammalian toxicity levels of melamine to conclude it could cause illness and deaths in cats. With little existing data, many questions still remain as to the connection between the illnesses and what has caused them," Hooker said.

    Wheat gluten, a source of vegetable protein, is also used in some human foods, but the FDA emphasized it had found no indication that the contaminated ingredient had been used in food for people. The FDA said it would alert the public quickly if the melamine was found in any foods other than the recalled pet food.

    About 70 percent of the wheat gluten used in the United States for human and pet food is imported from the European Union and Asia, according to the Pet Food Institute, an industry group. Menu Foods used wheat gluten to thicken the gravy of its "cuts and gravy" style wet pet foods, FDA officials have said.

    One veterinarian suggested the international sourcing of ingredients would force the U.S. "to come to grips with a reality we had not appreciated."
    "When you change from getting an ingredient from the supplier down the road to a supplier from around the globe, maybe the methods and practices that were effective in one situation need to be changed," said Tony Buffington, a professor of veterinary clinical sciences at Ohio State University.

    The FDA's Sundlof said the agency may change how it regulates the pet food industry.

    "In this case, we're going to have to look at this after the dust settles and determine if there is something from a regulatory standpoint that we could have done differently to prevent this incident from occurring," he said.
    Recall expanded to some dry cat food - Yahoo! News

    from the Menu Foods site:
    NOTES FOR REMARKS BY

    Updated recall lists:
    Cat: Menu Foods Income Fund - Annual General Meeting
    Dog: Menu Foods Income Fund - Annual General Meeting

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    wow..how long is this going to go on..?

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