Extreme dining on live sea animals

**Mariesoleil** · September 7th, 2007, 04:26 PM

This thread horrifies me. I'm getting emotional just reading it.

**sputnik** · September 8th, 2007, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by Chilly Willy

Oysters die in the stomach. They are alive when eaten, too. Lobsters live until they throw them in the boiling water, just like shrimps. I find all this very sick, but most people don't.

doesn't bug me at all. in fact, i was in brittany a few days ago and visited a town where they farm oysters and you go to the harbour and buy them directly at the source and they are alive and they just slice them open for you and you pour lemon on them and eat them with a little fork. yummy. we bought lobster too and you have to keep them alive until right before you cook them. and right before chucking them in the pot you're supposed to rub their backs and this makes them kind of lethargic. i'd honestly like to say that this bugs me but i'd be lying.

**BoogsBun** · September 8th, 2007, 09:33 PM

WAY OT. But is it true that lobsters scream when you add them to water?

**SVZ** · September 8th, 2007, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by sweet and sexy

Yes Grimm however at this restaurant they don't fry it, just bring it out after removing the head and then it is eaten with tentacles moving as it dies.

It is so brutal.

If it's been decapitated it's already dead...

Eels and chickens for example will continue twitching for like 10 minutes after they've been decapitated, doesn't mean they're alive though.

**A*O** · September 8th, 2007, 10:37 PM

The 'screaming' of lobsters and any other shellfish when put in the pot is the sound of the shell expanding in the hot water. The 'humane' way to kill and cook a lobster is to put it in cold water and slowly bring it to the boil. The lobster falls asleep as the water temp rises and never wakes up. Some people stab it through the brain and kill it instantly just before cooking it. None of this stuff is exactly new so I'm not sure why everyone is so shocked?

I moved a plant pot yesterday and accidentally knocked the tail off a small gecko that was underneath (their tails fall off very easily). The gecko ran off and the tail continued to twitch and curl/uncurl for a good 5 minutes. Weird.
PS I didn't eat it.

**SVZ** · September 8th, 2007, 10:48 PM

PS I didn't eat it.

Ugh, waster...you know there are kids in Africa...blah bah blah...

**Icepik** · September 9th, 2007, 12:29 AM

Originally Posted by A*O

The 'screaming' of lobsters and any other shellfish when put in the pot is the sound of the shell expanding in the hot water. The 'humane' way to kill and cook a lobster is to put it in cold water and slowly bring it to the boil. The lobster falls asleep as the water temp rises and never wakes up. Some people stab it through the brain and kill it instantly just before cooking it. None of this stuff is exactly new so I'm not sure why everyone is so shocked?

I moved a plant pot yesterday and accidentally knocked the tail off a small gecko that was underneath (their tails fall off very easily). The gecko ran off and the tail continued to twitch and curl/uncurl for a good 5 minutes. Weird.
PS I didn't eat it.

The only question I have is, how do they actually know the lobster is falling asleep? Wouldn't it just be boiling to death slowly, making it look like it's falling asleep?

**sputnik** · September 9th, 2007, 07:38 AM

what next, hypodermic tranquiliser shots for lobsters before cooking them?
we've been eating seafood forever, there is a foodchain, and humans are omnivores. simple as that. i really don't put much more thought into it than that.

**Chilly Willy** · September 9th, 2007, 07:43 AM

It's easy to feed yourself without killing anything. It's just unnecessary nowadays. Evoltuion has made us omnivores, but most importantly it has given us a brain and a sense of moral.

**sputnik** · September 9th, 2007, 07:52 AM

meh. we'll have to agree to disagree on that one. i still believe in the foodchain. no amount of progress and evolution can totally remove us from nature. i also think it would be a shame to throw out thousands of years of culinary art and tradition because of this. cooking and food is an artform and vegan cooking just doesn't even come close.

sex is unnecessary too. thanks to science we can have babies without it and getting rid of it would probably end a lot of diseases and make things easier, but it doesn't make it right.

**Chilly Willy** · September 9th, 2007, 08:00 AM

Factory farming and torture isn't culinary art. Killing is not an art form.

And tradition should never be a reason not to change things. Female circumcision is a tradition, too.

The way people are treating animals is going to bite us in the ass. Bird flu, BSE, hoof and mouth disease are just heralds. Humanity is going to pay for the daily holocaust that you call an "art form".

**VenusInFauxFurs** · September 9th, 2007, 08:11 AM

God damn.. I love you Chilly.

**Chilly Willy** · September 9th, 2007, 08:21 AM

*bows to Venus*

**sputnik** · September 9th, 2007, 08:48 AM

who's talking about factory farming? don't get me wrong, i think industrialising food to the extreme is wrong as well, i just don't see the reason to go all the way to the other extreme either.