Turlock, California man kills baby and is shot to death by police - Page 2

AliceInWonderland · June 16th, 2008, 01:51 PM

psycho peice of shit from hell!

Sojiita · June 16th, 2008, 02:33 PM

Even if the guy was mentally ill, this was a situation where someone should have just immediately shot his ass dead. This is one of those times where I could wish that someone nearby or on the scene had a weapon on them, a liscence to carry it on them, and had used it.

Or better yet, that baseball bat thing. Why did someone not STOP him sooner? Hell a crowbar, hammer out of a toolbox, anything to stop the attack

sputnik · June 16th, 2008, 02:41 PM

^^^^

i wondered about that as well. all you needed is for more than one person to jump the guy and get him away from the kid. but by then he might already have inflicted so much damage to the baby that it may be for the best that he didn't survive. he probably broke every bone in his little body. ugh.

i'm kind of disappointed the evil bastard is dead though, and will never have to pay for this.

A*O · June 16th, 2008, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by twitchy

You have got to be joking. Civil liberties have absolutely nothing to do with this. Nobody was suggesting otherwise. This was a real emergency situation that demanded immediate action which the officer appropriately took.

I guarantee there are people who think he should have been given the due process of law because he was mentally ill or drunk or off his head on drugs. Or arrested and incarcerated for life because the death penalty is nothing more than state sponsored murder, blah blah blah. And then they will start bleating about trigger happy cops. Of course he should have been shot dead on the spot (so should a lot of other crims IMO).

twitchy · June 16th, 2008, 06:24 PM

Total BS. Show me someone who could think that.

Yes, the guy was probably mentally ill or on some sort of drug and if that could have been caught earlier, this horrible incident may never have happened and this man may even have been able to make changes in his life. That didn't happen. There was a child who was clearly in immediate danger and the police acted as they ought to.

Yes, there are incidents of police who over react. This was not one of them.

Death penalty vs. life in prison has nothing to do with this.

A*O · June 16th, 2008, 07:21 PM

If you're looking for a fight you've picked the wrong person and the wrong topic. I AGREE WITH YOU. But that doesn't alter the fact that there are people who think that being mentally ill, drunk or drugged up are excuses for this kind of monstrous behaviour. And there are people who think that the cops are too quick to shoot first and ask questions later. I am not one of those people and neither, clearly, are you. So what's the problem.

twitchy · June 16th, 2008, 07:24 PM

Fight? No. Did you want to?

You guaranteed that such people exist. I don't believe it.

Penny Lane · June 16th, 2008, 07:43 PM

Batshit crazy or just plain cracked out, I'd have shot the bastard right then and there. I don't think I'd have trouble sleeping at night. He got the justice he deserved... a fatal shot. Wish he could have suffered the same way the poor baby boy did. Monster.

Sojiita · June 16th, 2008, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sputnik

^^^^

i wondered about that as well. all you needed is for more than one person to jump the guy and get him away from the kid. but by then he might already have inflicted so much damage to the baby that it may be for the best that he didn't survive. he probably broke every bone in his little body. ugh.

i'm kind of disappointed the evil bastard is dead though, and will never have to pay for this.

I would think he would be so caught up in slaughtering that poor kid that someone would have a chance at a crowbar/tire iron to the head or something..hell even I could have managed that!

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Originally Posted by twitchy

Fight? No. Did you want to?

You guaranteed that such people exist. I don't believe it.

I believe it. They may not be posting on this board at the moment but you can bet your ass they are out there-and I know some of them. They are almost driven and obsessed with supporting the 'rights' of the criminals, in practically ANY situation. Sorry if you do not believe it, but it IS true, and you cannot just 'wish away' my factual firsthand knowledge of such people. I know it is hard to fathom it, but they do exist!

Also if they are on this board, they sure as hell are not going to post that stuff, given how the thread is-unless they were completely brain dead they would know they would get eaten alive on this thread for posting such.

twitchy · June 16th, 2008, 08:00 PM

Riiiight.

Rights of criminals or rights of all people?

Sojiita · June 16th, 2008, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by twitchy

Riiiight.

Rights of criminals or rights of all people?

They are the general liberal do gooder..nothing wrong with that..but a few take it to the extreme and do think more of the rights of criminals than the rights of the victims. it is almost a backlash to the 'victims rights' campaigns. There are crazies like that out there-look at the women lining up to fucking marry convicted serial killers on death row!

And I did not appreciate your 'riiiiighy' comment. The tone is evident and not needed. Why did you do that? Was it this? 'Sorry if you do not believe it, but it IS true, and you cannot just 'wish away' my factual firsthand knowledge of such people'?

That does seem kind of harsh so I withdraw that part of my ealier statement/post.

twitchy · June 16th, 2008, 08:24 PM

or the "brain dead" bit.

The whole "criminals have more rights than everyone else" thing is a stereotype.

Sojiita · June 16th, 2008, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by twitchy

or the "brain dead" bit.

The whole "criminals have more rights than everyone else" thing is a stereotype.

The brain dead part was referring to any 'rights of the criminal' people who might be board members and would be 'brain dead' enough to post such drivel in this thread, given the tone of this thread. Is that you? Are you one of these people? Please reread the post. What is up with you today Twitchy? Damn you do seem to be spoiling for a fight.

*In fact, you cannot possibly be one of those people, and thus be offended by it attacking you, since you 'guaranteed' that such people do not exist, right? so what is up?

twitchy · June 16th, 2008, 08:39 PM

You think I'm spoiling for a fight? I think you may be reading too much into my posts.

I made no guarantees. You seriously think that I or anyone else would value a criminal above other members of society?

Sojiita · June 16th, 2008, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by twitchy

You think I'm spoiling for a fight? I think you may be reading too much into my posts.

I made no guarantees. You seriously think that I or anyone else would value a criminal above other members of society?

Oops..sorry you are right you did not guarantee anything.

And ..actually..I am at the point of completely not understanding your posts. A*O said that such people ( who value the criminal more than the victim ) exist, and you took her to task for it. Nobody accused you of having any opinion like that, so what are you talking about?

I do not think that YOU would value the criminal above the other members of society. I KNOW people(again NOT YOU) who DO 'practically' just that-value the criminal rights to the point of near exclusion of the rights of the victim-I think it may be a backlash to the 'victims' rights' thing. And there are crazies crazy enough to do just that( again I know alot of nut cases, these included). Just look at the serialkiller-marrying women to see an example of the type of crazy.