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    Ravi refused a very good plea deal that took into account his youth and naivete. Something is wrong with this guy that he wouldn't understand the social and legal repercussions of his actions, and understand the gift he was offered. Entitled little man, I bet he was the family genius child.
    Exactly. What was he thinking? What he did was an invasion of privacy, regardless of whether they could prove that it was motivated by bias or hate. And he knew he had removed tweets or whatever it was he did to cover his tracks. What an idiot. I certainly hope that his lawyers at least advised him to take the plea deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soogar View Post
    If Tyler felt uncomfortable about living with a kid who was "homophobic", he should have been able to request a roommate change and that change should have happened earlier on. I put "homophobic" in quote because most likely he didn't have an issue with gay people existing, but more having to share close quarters with a homosexual. There are many avowed straight guys who have no problem having gay guys as friends and interacting with them in neutral situations like watching a game or dinner but would have a problem watching their gay friends interact with other gay men at a club.
    Oh yeah. It's like, I'm ok with Jewish people existing and watching them interact in a neutral situation, but seeing them all at a synagogue, acting all Jewish? Weirds me out! And, being a white person, having a black room mate would totally make me uncomfortable! It's great how some white people are ok with black room mates, but those are the really kind and understanding ones. No one should be forced to have a black room mate if they're white, it can be really awkward.

    Now how is that ^ any different from what you just wrote? I'm sick and tired of the notion that one form of bigotry is more acceptable than others. Bigotry is bigotry.
    He was uncomfortable? Big fucking deal. He's going to get a lot more uncomfortable now that he's going to jail.

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    ^But at least in jail he won't have to share close quarters with any homosexuals.
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    He's going to be taking a lot of dick up the ass for a few years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greysfang View Post
    He's going to be taking a lot of dick up the ass for a few years.
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    Good post but I want to add my point of view that it is really not fair to paint Ravi as this evil person. Quite frankly, I am stunned that the media (edited to add: more likely event of Tyler's suicide) has brushed under the table the fact that Tyler went online and picked up this random 30 year old stranger to bring to the dorm. Behavior like this exposes both Tyler and his roommate to danger. And I really think that Tyler's behavior was disgusting and shown complete disregard to his roommate's personal safety and his possessions.
    LOL yeah, students are rarely known to pick up random people to bring to their dorms. Frankly, one could argue that someone online is less "random" than someone you would meet at bars, clubs, parks, grocery stores, etc., because you can google them as you're online!

    I remember when I was 18 years old and I was scared of older men. If these were two girls rooming together, and one girl would bring a random older guy to the dorm room, most likely there would be a complaint to the university and the situation would be taken care of.
    Just because you are scared doesn't make them dangerous. I hope you addressed your phobia, because it's quite unhealthy.


    I believe Ravi when he said the guy looked sketchy and that was why he initially turned on the web cam. Only a 30 year old vagabond would go to a child's dorm room instead of bringing him back to his place.
    Sound logic right there. We all know how those hobos love their internet access!

    A lot of boys have a hard time articulating fear and complaints. Many times they resort to other means of expressing their displeasure. What Ravi did was not right and carried a huge penalty: potential expulsion from school, suspension, permanent record.
    You forgot terrorizing another human being.

    However what Tyler did was incredibly dangerous and Ravi should have reported him to Rutgers and let the authorities deal with it. No 18 year old should have to deal with their roommate bringing strange adult men in the room. And while Ravi may not have been afraid, and even if he was he probably was unable to articulate fear, bottom line was that the situation probably looked threatening and unsavory: older scruffy man with very young looking boy.
    And blasting vid of "older scruffy man with very young looking boy" articulated his fear/non-fear/fear how? If you in fact define college students as being "children," then how come you aren't complaining about Ravi distributing child porn via secret webcam?

    The whole posturing and anti-gay remarks - including the web cam- is a way for a boy to articulate fear and displeasure at a situation without coming off as a sissy. Many men are discouraged from openly discussing their thoughts and instead adopt insensitive forms of expression. So while he comes off as a jerk, deep down inside he was uncomfortable with the situation.
    Interesting choice of words...
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    Quote Originally Posted by soogar View Post
    I put "homophobic" in quote because most likely he didn't have an issue with gay people existing, but more having to share close quarters with a homosexual. There are many avowed straight guys who have no problem having gay guys as friends and interacting with them in neutral situations like watching a game or dinner but would have a problem watching their gay friends interact with other gay men at a club.
    are you fucking kidding? how is that not homophobic? homophobia doesn't just mean hating gays and wishing they didn't exist. what you describe is also most definitely homophobic, even if it seems to be more socially acceptable in some places.
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    Dahrun Ravi Sentenced to 30 Days in Rutgers Spying Case

    Former Rutgers student Dharun Ravi, who in March was found guilty of invasion of privacy and hate crimes that resulted in the tragic suicide of his roommate Tyler Clementi, was sentenced Monday to 30 days in jail. He will begin his sentence on May 31.

    Ravi, 20, did not speak, but inside the packed New Brunswick, N.J., courtroom, his mother, Sabitha Ravi, in tears, pleaded for mercy for her son. "The media was ripping him apart with their misleading facts ... He was absolutely devastated and broken into pieces,” she said, referring to her son as "kind-hearted and loving," reports the Newark Star-Ledger.

    Ravi cried as his mother spoke.

    In a case that received national attention, Ravi was also convicted of bias intimidation, witness tampering, hindering arrest and numerous other charges. All stemmed from his role in using a webcam to observe Clementi's date with a man in the dorm room on Sept. 19, 2010.

    Ravi later Tweeted about what he'd witnessed and invited others to watch Clementi with the man, whose name has not been revealed. Prosecutors said Ravi was motivated by a hatred of gays, an allegation Ravi consistently denied.

    "I do not believe he hated Tyler Clementi," Judge Glenn Berman told the court on Monday, according to ABC News. "He had no reason to, but I do believe he acted out of colossal insensitivity."

    Clementi, 18, jumped to his death off the George Washington Bridge on Sept. 22, after leaving a note on Facebook that read, "Jumping off the gw bridge. Sorry."

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    In the days leading up to Monday's sentencing, several prominent gay activists made public pleas for Ravi not to be sent to prison, reports ABC News.

    But the man captured on the webcam with Clementi did not agree. His attorney, Richard Pompelio, read his victim-impact statement in court Monday. It said, "While I bear no anger towards Mr. Ravi, after much thought and many sleepless nights, I must say that Mr. Ravi should serve some type of confinement so that he can reflect on the serious harm he has caused. ... I do not believe that he has taken responsibility for his conduct, and to this day he seems to blame me for the actions he took."

    Speaking in court as his wife cried, Tyler's father, Joseph Clementi, also said of Ravi: "He had no call to do what he did. Tyler never did anything to Mr. Ravi to cause him harm." Ravi's actions, said Joseph Clementi, were purely as a result of his seeing Tyler "as someone not deserving basic human decency and respect, because my son was different from him [and] because he was gay."

    In her own message, Jane Clementi, Tyler's mother, called Ravi's actions "mean-spirited, they are evil and, most important, they are against the law." She also said, "The court needs to show ... this was not right, and it was not acceptable behavior, and it will not be tolerated."

    Before trial, Ravi had rejected a plea deal that would have placed him on probation and required community service – and spared him any time behind bars or the threat of deportation to his native India. He chose instead to face a jury.

    Molly Wei, another student who was with Ravi when he was eavesdropping on Clementi (and whose laptop was used to watch the intimate encounter), received leniency for her participation in the events. She was sentenced to perform 300 hours of community service, undergo counseling or training in cyberbullying and alternative lifestyles and work full-time.

    Soon after Ravi's conviction, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie also signed into law tougher anti-cyberbullying laws.
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    Fucker got off easy. He could have gotten up to 10 years.
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    So, what's the likelihood that he will get deported now? It sounded like one of the main reasons he didn't take the plea deal was because of the chance of deportation.

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    ^ I think, and I'm not 100% sure, that they can be open to being deported if they serve more than 1 year in jail.
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    You don't have to serve it, you just have to be sentenced to more one year or more (whether its suspended or not). I don't know if his three years of probation will count or not. But again, it depends on the jurisdiction. Anyway, I think this jackass judge just kept this sick fuck from being deported.
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    I heard on the radio the judge declined to deport him in part because the man who was with Tyler the night of the filming, asked the judge not to.

    I don't know if that means some other agency can't go after him.

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    Wow...not what I was expecting. But, yet....so many things are not what I expected in life. RIP Tyler.

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