Southwest apologizes to mom kicked off from flight - Page 4

buttmunch · November 3rd, 2009, 07:02 AM

Ok, I forgive you since you qualified your liking of him.

Shinola · November 3rd, 2009, 10:16 AM

Cosby was freaking funny as hell at the beginning of his career. I never saw or heard any of that material until the last few years, 'cause Mr. S is into old comedy. All I knew about was the Cosby Show and his personal stuff.

C_is_for_Cookie · November 3rd, 2009, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Grimmlok

she should have shared her booze with them, made them pass out

I've heard of parent doing that on a long car ride.

xXull · November 3rd, 2009, 10:49 AM

So wait she gets a gift card/flight credit reward for being a craptastic mother?

Perhaps if she wasn't afraid to spank her child, he'd know when to stfu. If that were me I'd haul his ass back to the restroom for a firm "talking to" (ie whip his ass if he insisted on yelling and screaming.)

But that's the hard way. On the other hand she should have had the insight that it was a plane ride and that's a lot of sitting on your ass in one place for a long time, so why didn't she have the insight to slip the kid some nyquil or something.

Whatta spoiled little cur.

McJag · November 3rd, 2009, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by xXull

So wait she gets a gift card/flight credit reward for being a craptastic mother?

Perhaps if she wasn't afraid to spank her child, he'd know when to stfu. If that were me I'd haul his ass back to the restroom for a firm "talking to" (ie whip his ass if he insisted on yelling and screaming.)

But that's the hard way. On the other hand she should have had the insight that it was a plane ride and that's a lot of sitting on your ass in one place for a long time, so why didn't she have the insight to slip the kid some nyquil or something.

Whatta spoiled little cur.

Trust me, if you want a quiet toddler, that is the LAST thing to do. Then he would go from shout out to scream out.

xXull · November 3rd, 2009, 11:06 AM

Between my own mother and I, you can believe it worked.
It was the fear of impending doom that kept me in check.

McJag · November 3rd, 2009, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by xXull

Between my own mother and I, you can believe it worked.
It was the fear of impending doom that kept me in check.

At 2? Anyway, all the mother had to do was haul out a new toy. Anyone can beat up a small child. Not what I'd call real mothering.

Grimmlok · November 3rd, 2009, 11:12 AM

Spanking is not beating up a child, give me a break. All the namby pamby 'ask nicely' parenting is creating a legion of entitled, ill behaved monsters

McJag · November 3rd, 2009, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Grimmlok

Spanking is not beating up a child, give me a break. All the namby pamby 'ask nicely' parenting is creating a legion of entitled, ill behaved monsters

Yes-spanking a two year old? Same difference. A 6 year old,maybe. I am not a "ask nicely kind of person. Mine never got spanked and you'd better believe he did not run wild and annoy other people-never. I never put up with that,not even mildly. Some of it depends on the child,I know. Mine was very verbal - just like your would be,dear Grimm.

Grimmlok · November 3rd, 2009, 11:14 AM

McJag · November 3rd, 2009, 11:21 AM

Shinola · November 3rd, 2009, 12:03 PM

Yeah, we've had this spanking discussion on here so many times. For my family, spanking simply didn't/doesn't work. Our approach to discipline is to use (a) natural consequences and (b) redirection. Because we moved several states away from my family, I had to travel by plane some when my kid was a toddler.

Example of natural consequences that a two-year-old can understand: Last week one of my son's schoolmates and his little sister were supposed to come over to my house to play. In the schoolyard, the two-year-old sister didn't listen to me when I corrected and guided her. At one point she looked up and asked me, "Come to your house?" And I told her, "Only little children who listen to my words and do as I say may come to my house. So if you want to come over, you must listen to me and do as I say. Can you do that?" She said, "Okay," immediately started doing what she was supposed to.

The challenge of using consequences is coming up with ones that are "natural." At home, if my son can't behave at the dinner table, the consequence is that he has to leave the table and eat alone in his room, which he hates. So he behaves. In public, the natural consequence is that if he doesn't behave in Place X, we leave Place X, and next time I will not bring him with me when I go there. He always wants to tag along, so that's effective.

But on a plane, it's much harder. The parent's hands are a little more tied. I remember spending at least a month of daily prep with my kid at that age and planning like mad to come up with every possible distraction and diversion. Fortunately, he loves traveling and could understand the big picture that we are quiet on airplanes, and that traveling is a privilege--one that would be revoked if he misbehaved. The outcome is that after all that training, he has become an excellent traveler. It was part good luck and part hard work--I don't think all kids necessarily have the temperament to behave in those circumstances. If I'd thought my kid couldn't avoid being a nuisance, I'd have tried some other way of traveling.

I always felt SO sorry for people when I stepped onto the plane with a baby / toddler; I could see the panic in their eyes.

AliceInWonderland · November 3rd, 2009, 01:23 PM

i dont know why they apologized! i have an extreme phobia of flying and it doesn't help when some idiot toddler is yelling shit like "whoaaaaaaaaah" and "dad are we gonna crash?!" and other shit i've had to hear before my meds kick in, little shits, put a muzzle on them or designate an area of the plane for kids please! just like at Thanksgiving when they have a kids table

scooter · November 3rd, 2009, 07:15 PM

The force 10 stinkeye always worked for me. Not need to resort to spanking. But as I said, I always carried pops and entertainment for travel. And when she was especially good on a long trip, she got to pick out something as a gift at the destination. You get more flies with honey than vinegar, you know?

A*O · November 3rd, 2009, 07:21 PM

Mom's Death Glare only works if you have taught the little fuckers about it from birth in which case spanking shouldn't even be necessary in most cases. But it was always available as Mom's Last Resort if all else failed. Mom's Looking Slightly Cross While Trying Not To Melt At Your Cheeky Adorableness isn't good enough.