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Old November 1st, 2009, 04:56 PM   #31 (permalink)
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^^I agree MrsDark, and hey, I'm not above drugging mine if I have to. Trust me, I would.

Yet a 2 yr old, is probably not breast feeding or takes a bottle. A sippy cup, yep. But they could throw that thing across the plane in a matter of seconds.

It's just not as easy as it may SEEM is my point, and I'm not directing that to anyone at all in particular, just a general statement.

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i'm with you on this. it is HARD to occupy a toddler. at home, i can take them to the park and watch them crawl over everything until they are tired and pass out. if i tried to walk them up & down the aisle of the plane, i would probably get dirty looks. if they squawked and yelped (it's not like they know 'indoor voice' at this point) then i would get dirty looks. so we don't fly. i'm too scared.
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Old November 1st, 2009, 05:13 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I've been on a number of flights beside, in front, behind screaming freak children.

NONE OF THEIR PARENTS DID ANYTHING, except ask weakly if they could pretty please stop screaming, but only if you feel like it honey.

Useless retards. You don't ASK children. YOU TELL THEM.
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Old November 1st, 2009, 06:17 PM   #33 (permalink)
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My last flight - San Jose to Denver (first leg of getting home to Detroit) there was a couple with twins (foreign, perhaps Pakistani) - their kids screamed bloody murder the entire flight and they did nothing. Nothing. I found the earphones (thanks, United!) and threw them on immediately. When the plane landed, they kept looking at each other and shrugging their shoulders. They didn't even try.
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Old November 1st, 2009, 08:29 PM   #34 (permalink)
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We simply didn't fly anywhere with the kids until they were old enough to be trusted to behave, probably around 5 and 8 respectively. It wasn't just out of consideration for other passengers but for our own sanity. If we had to fly for work purposes, we went travelled fast and light and solo. Ditto if it was some dire family emergency. We didn't HAVE to be anywhere that we couldn't drive to if necessary and for a few years we didn't go overseas on vacation. People justify taking their 2yr olds to exotic locations with "oh but it's such a broadening experience to visit new cultures and explore the history of a new country". Bollox. The parents want to do that, the kids don't give a crap and won't remember it anyway. Parents still put their own needs and convenience first and piss off everyone else in the process.
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 05:30 AM   #35 (permalink)
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I understand that you can't control a child 100%, but if a parent is at least trying, then I don't really mind. That's just how it is with kids. It's the parents who do nothing, or think their kid's screams are music, that drive me crazy.
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 06:25 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Play Doh. Crayons. Cards. Rubiks Cube. Food. There are all sorts of things you bring to keep the heathens quiet but sometimes they do just lose it. Then you do whatever you can to distract them while praying they calm the fuck down before you're lynched by other passengers.
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 07:40 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Play Doh. Crayons. Cards. Rubiks Cube. Food. There are all sorts of things you bring to keep the heathens quiet but sometimes they do just lose it. Then you do whatever you can to distract them while praying they calm the fuck down before you're lynched by other passengers.
I think most of us can live with it, as long as the parents are trying. It is the parents who sit there like a log I'd like to strangle! How hard is it to stick in a small toy or lollipop? Yet some twits never give it a thought.
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 08:15 AM   #38 (permalink)
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You're right but I do remember one flight when older heathen was just two and I waas preggers with younger heathen. We got stuck on teh tarmac for 3 hours, flew into London to make a connection which obvioiusly had already left, spent 5 hours in a hotel and then got up to make the new connection, at which time I had little left for thee heathen to play with or eat. Remarkably he was pretty good and since it was pre-911 days the flight attendents were actually nice and helpful.
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 06:09 PM   #39 (permalink)
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I sat behind a woman with 3 feral kids who even the flight attendants told to settle down - several times. The woman was drunk and didn't make any effort whatsoever to control her kids. I lost it completely when one of them spilled a whole can of 7-Up between the seats directly into my handbag. I called a FA for backup and asked the woman to please keep a closer eye on her kids. She was so drunk she could hardly stay awake. When the plane finally landed after the longest 3 hours of my life the youngest kid started running up and down the aisle just as the wheels touched the tarmac. The bump made the kid fall over - duh - and it started to scream although luckily he wasn't hurt, just surprised. As we got off the plane the 3 seats where this lovely family sat looked like a war zone with food smeared over the seats, 7-Up everywhere, used Kleenex, wet wipes (!)... Once we got into the terminal the first thing the woman did was go to a bar and order a large vodka which she downed in one. Her poor husband was waiting to meet them at the baggage claim and he had to more or less carry her out. In retrospect I feel very sorry for the kids to have a hopeless alkie for a mother but there's no way she should have been travelling alone with them and I was surprised the airline let her fly in the state she was in.
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In retrospect I feel very sorry for the kids to have a hopeless alkie for a mother but there's no way she should have been travelling alone with them and I was surprised the airline let her fly in the state she was in.
That is just sad.
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 06:18 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Yes, it's sad and I had to keep reminding myself as I cleaned out the sticky 7Up goo from my bag and its contents. The whole lot was pretty much ruined.
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she should have shared her booze with them, made them pass out
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Yes, it's sad and I had to keep reminding myself as I cleaned out the sticky 7Up goo from my bag and its contents. The whole lot was pretty much ruined.
Triple yuk. Think I would have ordered hot coffe & returned the favor.
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^^I fucking LOVE that Bill Cosby DVD. The whole thing is actually hilarious. I think I just admitted to liking Bill Cosby. YIKES. Though in my defense, it was way before he became an asshole.
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