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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok
    Nothing living has an inherent right to anything. There are no rights in nature.
    Word. Guess how many baby sea turtles never make it to the ocean? Guess how many crocodiles never make it to adulthood? A LOT!

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    CHRISTIAN terrorists, who should be labelled such and locked up in Guantanamo with their Islamic brethren.

    Fundamentalism is the same across the board, irregardless of religion. They're all fucking nuts.
    I am from the American CIA and I have a radio in my head. I am going to kill you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WickedHo
    Ok, found it! So my response is, you're assuming that you know God's Plan when you say "an abortionist cannot perform any more abortions" if he/she were to be blown up by a terrorist. (And, yes, I call these kinds of pro-lifers terrorists because they are using terror and fear to accomplish their goals.) That's all.
    no that's not what I'm getting at. I'm definitely NOT endorsing the use of violence to kill abortionists.

    I was just making an observation that if an abortionist is killed, it is true that many lives are possibly saved when it happens. But I'm not willing to take the stance that this fact makes it "okay" to murder doctors.

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    Also the bible doesn't say that exactly...
    Life will break you. Nobody can protect you from that, and living alone won't either, for solitude will also break you with its yearning. You have to love. You have to feel. Horrible isn't it? It makes you so vulnerable.

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    Lives are saved?

    No, something living that hasn't even developed yet. A protobeing. It doesn't have a life yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WickedHo
    Nobody controls "the box office." What the hell are you talking about? And are you including Fox News when you say "all major media outlets"?
    of course!

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    There was an interesting article on how the internet was now the prime media and information source for the planet

    Take that, FOX news and spineless shareholder-toadying conglomerates.
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    Rupert Murdoch (Fox)controls lots of newspapers and TV and radio station in several countries including the US, England and Australia. He is as right-wing as they come.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok
    There was an interesting article on how the internet was now the prime media and information source for the planet

    Take that, FOX news and spineless shareholder-toadying conglomerates.
    And a lot of info on the 'net is placed there by major media outlets or advertisers, it's not all credible or even accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyPool
    can you tell me why every living thing right down to mold wants to live? I believe the true bible lives in nature. Are you able to provide an example of another species that does this type of thing?

    To every thing, turn, turn, turn
    There is a season, turn, turn, turn
    And a time to every purpose under heaven
    A time to be born, a time to die
    A time to plant, a time to reap
    A time to kill, a time to heal
    A time to laugh, a time to weep

    To everything, turn, turn, turn
    There is a season, turn, turn, turn
    And a time to every purpose under heaven
    A time to build up, a time to break down
    A time to dance, a time to mourn
    A time to cast away stones
    A time to gather stones together

    To everything, turn, turn, turn
    There is a season, turn, turn, turn
    And a time to every purpose under heaven
    A time of love, a time of hate
    A time of war, a time of peace
    A time you may embrace
    A time to refrain from embracing

    To everything, turn, turn, turn
    There is a season, turn, turn, turn
    And a time to every purpose under heaven
    A time to gain, a time to lose
    A time to rend, a time to sew
    A time to love, a time to hate
    A time for peace, I swear it's not too late


    for those who don't know that song its turn, turn, turn - by the byrds
    Every Sperm Is Sacred by Monty Python
    There are Jews in the world, there are Buddhists,
    There are Hindus and Mormons and then,
    There are those that follow Mohammed,
    But I've never been one of them...

    I'm a Roman Catholic, and have been since the day I was born,
    And the one thing they say about Catholics,
    Is they'll take you as soon as you're warm...

    You don't have to be a six-footer,
    You don't have to have a great brain,
    You don't have to have any clothes on -
    You're a Catholic the moment dad came...

    because...

    Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great,
    If a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate.

    Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great,
    If a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate.

    Let the heathen spill theirs, on the dusty ground,
    God shall make them pay for each sperm that can't be found

    Every sperm is wanted, every sperm is good,
    Every sperm is needed in your neighbourhood.

    Hindu, Taoist, Mormon,
    Spill theirs just anywhere,
    But God loves those who treat their
    Semen with more care.

    Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great,
    If a sperm is wasted,
    God gets quite irate.

    Every sperm is sacred,
    Every sperm is good,
    Every sperm is needed,
    In your neighbourhood.

    Every sperm is useful, every sperm is fine,
    God needs everybody's,
    Mine
    And mine
    And mine

    Let the Pagan spill theirs,
    O'er mountain, hill and plain,
    God shall strike them down for
    Each sperm that's spilt in vain.

    Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is good,
    Every sperm is needed in your neighbourhood.

    Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great,
    If a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate.

    Irrelevant? Perhaps. But no more so than bringing in your own religious beliefs into this, since you are arguing for outlawing abortion by human laws rather than what you perceive as the laws of your 'God'.

    Anti-abortionists who try to approach this by brandishing the mighty word of the Bible should perhaps consider moving to a Theocracy, where religion has relevance upon the human law.

    The crux of this issue is the whole Human Life Or Clump of Cells debate. It's a legal, medical and ethical issue, but it's not a religious ones, so various religious quotes being thrown around have no more relevance than...oh, the stylings of Monty Python.

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    You're my new best friend.
    I am from the American CIA and I have a radio in my head. I am going to kill you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aella
    Every Sperm Is Sacred by Monty Python
    There are Jews in the world, there are Buddhists,
    There are Hindus and Mormons and then,
    There are those that follow Mohammed,
    But I've never been one of them...

    I'm a Roman Catholic, and have been since the day I was born,
    And the one thing they say about Catholics,
    Is they'll take you as soon as you're warm...

    You don't have to be a six-footer,
    You don't have to have a great brain,
    You don't have to have any clothes on -
    You're a Catholic the moment dad came...

    because...

    Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great,
    If a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate.

    Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great,
    If a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate.

    Let the heathen spill theirs, on the dusty ground,
    God shall make them pay for each sperm that can't be found

    Every sperm is wanted, every sperm is good,
    Every sperm is needed in your neighbourhood.

    Hindu, Taoist, Mormon,
    Spill theirs just anywhere,
    But God loves those who treat their
    Semen with more care.

    Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great,
    If a sperm is wasted,
    God gets quite irate.

    Every sperm is sacred,
    Every sperm is good,
    Every sperm is needed,
    In your neighbourhood.

    Every sperm is useful, every sperm is fine,
    God needs everybody's,
    Mine
    And mine
    And mine

    Let the Pagan spill theirs,
    O'er mountain, hill and plain,
    God shall strike them down for
    Each sperm that's spilt in vain.

    Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is good,
    Every sperm is needed in your neighbourhood.

    Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great,
    If a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate.

    Irrelevant? Perhaps. But no more so than bringing in your own religious beliefs into this, since you are arguing for outlawing abortion by human laws rather than what you perceive as the laws of your 'God'.

    Anti-abortionists who try to approach this by brandishing the mighty word of the Bible should perhaps consider moving to a Theocracy, where religion has relevance upon the human law.

    The crux of this issue is the whole Human Life Or Clump of Cells debate. It's a legal, medical and ethical issue, but it's not a religious ones, so various religious quotes being thrown around have no more relevance than...oh, the stylings of Monty Python.
    Dear Satan, you can crawl back down to the 5th ring, turn right and roast!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JungleMonkey
    that child still has a right to life. Who makes the determination when a life is "worth living"? we have no way to know if even the most disabled child is sentient or not. and i'm not willing to kill another human being because in my person estimation their life is not worth living. killing an innocent baby because the mother might be inconvenienced is not a valid reason for murder.
    Yes, disabled children have as much a right to live as abled ones. Notice how no one is advocating throwing disabled children over a cliff, Spartan-style (and I'm not talking about not taking extraordinary measures to keep a child with a degenerative disease alive, but rather actively ending their life).

    However, we are not talking children here, we are talking embryos and early-development fetuses. Legally and medically, they are not recognised as 'life'. You see them as life, aparently because the official stance of your religion seems to be such, we see them as a potential for life for sure, but cetainly not whose rights overrule those of people who are already born, conscious and (for the most part) thinking.

    And also 'because the mother might be inconvenianced'? What an absurd simplification of the medical, emotional and financial issues involved. Not just for the mother, but for the human being that might come into a life of suffering.

    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyPool
    Dear Satan, you can crawl back down to the 5th ring, turn right and roast!
    How sweet, you know my name!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyPool
    Dear Satan, you can crawl back down to the 5th ring, turn right and roast!
    I'm wearing my "Enjoy SATAN" shirt tonight. Just for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aella
    Yes, disabled children have as much a right to live as abled ones. Notice how no one is advocating throwing disabled children over a cliff, Spartan-style (and I'm not talking about not taking extraordinary measures to keep a child with a degenerative disease alive, but rather actively ending their life).

    However, we are not talking children here, we are talking embryos and early-development fetuses. Legally and medically, they are not recognised as 'life'. You see them as life, aparently because the official stance of your religion seems to be such, we see them as a potential for life for sure, but cetainly not whose rights overrule those of people who are already born, conscious and (for the most part) thinking.

    And also 'because the mother might be inconvenianced'? What an absurd simplification of the medical, emotional and financial issues involved. Not just for the mother, but for the human being that might come into a life of suffering.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok
    Stop making me hot!
    I can't help it, I am the bringer of all sin and evil!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyPool
    Dear Satan, you can crawl back down to the 5th ring, turn right and roast!
    Aw, wassa matter, Puddin'? Don't like it when you get owned?

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