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    Thanks, Waterslide. Yes, you can be paid WAY below minimum wage (ie, $2.13) if tips are expected to account for a large part of your earnings--that's what makes that waitress special compared to, say, someone who works at McDonald's. I don't know what the waitress' base wage is. I don't it said in the article.

    I think this is another one of those examples where company policies haven't kept pace with technology. It's not uncommon for people to post things like that shaming customers (or sometimes servers, when they put something vile on the check). I assume there was enough identifying information on the posted receipt for it to get back to that sanctimonious bitch of a customer. She deserved to be shamed, but I can see restaurants not wanting patron's information put out there without their permission. Still doesn't excuse or explain why someone could be such a stingy, ungrateful, un-agape-having c__t in the first place. Bitch needs to go back and read her Bible.
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    Yes, my son worked at a Water Park last summer for less than minimum wage. It was a 3-month job and he's under 20.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greysfang View Post
    Yes, my son worked at a Water Park last summer for less than minimum wage. It was a 3-month job and he's under 20.
    I think that it's safe to say, that you were not making him help with the mortgage though.

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    (Answering Quazar) They probably get away with the one regarding disabilities because, depending on the disability, a person may only be able to do some of the job duties while someone else picks up the slack. I've seen grocery stores here that have hired mentally challenged people who honestly can only do one task, such as stocking shelves or bagging groceries, while someone who is not disabled has a few other duties tacked onto a similar job description. I'm not saying it's fair necessarily, but in a sense they're probably saying you should get paid for the work you're able to do.

    The thing about doing crafts (wreaths?) at home I don't understand, unless it has something to do with filling out tax forms. Most people that sell crafts from their houses are probably self-employed anyway?

    Federal investigators get paid on a general schedule, which for GS1 is only about $17,000/year which is roughly less than minimum wage in my state.


    General Schedule (US civil service pay scale) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Salary Calculation

    Salaries under the GS have two components: a base salary and a "locality pay adjustment".

    Base salary

    The base salary is based on a table compiled by Office of Personnel Management (the 2010 table is shown below),[1] and is used as the baseline for the locality pay adjustment. The increases between steps for Grades GS-1 and GS-2 varies between the steps; for Grades GS-3 through GS-15 the increases between the steps are the same within the grade, but increase as the grade increases. The table is revised effective January of each year to reflect the basic cost of living adjustment (known as the General Schedule Increase).
    GS Grade Step 1 Step 2 Step 3 Step 4 Step 5 Step 6 Step 7 Step 8 Step 9 Step 10
    1 $17,803 $18,398 $18,990 $19,579 $20,171 $20,519 $21,104 $21,694 $21,717 $22,269
    2 $20,017 $20,493 $21,155 $21,717 $21,961 $22,607 $23,253 $23,899 $24,545 $25,191
    3 $21,840 $22,568 $23,296 $24,024 $24,752 $25,480 $26,208 $26,936 $27,664 $28,392
    4 $24,518 $25,335 $26,152 $26,969 $27,786 $28,603 $29,420 $30,237 $31,054 $31,871
    5 $27,531 $28,345 $29,259 $30,173 $31,087 $32,001 $32,915 $33,829 $34,743 $35,657
    6 $30,577 $31,596 $32,615 $33,634 $34,653 $35,672 $36,691 $37,710 $38,729 $39,748
    7 $33,979 $35,112 $36,245 $37,378 $38,511 $39,644 $40,777 $41,910 $43,043 $44,176
    8 $37,631 $38,885 $40,139 $41,393 $42,647 $43,901 $45,155 $46,409 $47,663 $48,917
    9 $41,563 $42,948 $44,333 $45,718 $47,103 $48,488 $49,873 $51,258 $52,643 $54,028
    10 $45,771 $47,297 $48,823 $50,349 $51,875 $53,401 $54,927 $56,453 $57,979 $59,505
    11 $50,287 $51,963 $53,639 $55,315 $56,991 $58,667 $60,343 $62,019 $63,695 $65,371
    12 $60,274 $62,283 $64,292 $66,301 $68,310 $70,319 $72,328 $74,337 $76,346 $78,355
    13 $71,674 $74,063 $76,452 $78,841 $81,230 $83,619 $86,008 $88,397 $90,786 $93,175
    14 $84,697 $87,520 $90,343 $93,166 $95,989 $98,812 $101,635 $104,458 $107,281 $110,104
    15 $99,628 $102,949 $106,270 $109,591 $112,912 $116,233 $119,554 $122,875 $126,196 $129,517
    A small number of positions have their own unique GS scales, with one notable example being patent examiners. For example, a newly hired examiner at the lowest possible pay for that position (GS-5, Step 1) will earn $41,969, whether based at the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) headquarters in Alexandria, Virginia or the agency's recently opened satellite office in Detroit. The examiner scale does not include a locality adjustment (see below), but is still considerably higher than the standard GS scale for almost all grades and steps, even accounting for locality adjustment in the standard GS scale. The high end of the examiner scale is also elevated with respect to the normal GS scale; a GS-15, Step 10 examiner earns a salary of $155,000.[2]
    Locality Adjustment

    The second component of the GS salary, the locality pay adjustment, was introduced in 1994 as part of the Federal Employees Pay Comparability Act of 1990 (FEPCA). Prior to FEPCA, all GS employees received the same salary regardless of location, which failed to reflect both the disparity between public sector and private sector pay as well as differences in cost of living in major metropolitan areas.
    Under FEPCA, specified metropolitan areas are designated to receive pay adjustments in excess of the general adjustment provided to the "Rest of U.S.". Salary adjustments in Alaska, Hawaii, other U.S. Territories, and for overseas employees are separate from this adjustment. As of 2010, 31 metropolitan areas have been designated to receive these excess adjustment. The designated areas (shown by major city) and their 2010 pay adjustments (plus the "Rest of U.S." adjustment) are as follows:
    Area Adjustment Area Adjustment Area Adjustment Area Adjustment
    Atlanta 19.29% Dayton 16.24% Miami 20.79% Raleigh 17.64%
    Boston 24.28% Denver 22.52% Milwaukee 18.10% Richmond 16.47%
    Buffalo 16.98% Detroit 24.09% Minneapolis 20.96% Sacramento 22.20%
    Chicago 25.10% Hartford 25.82% New York City 28.72% San Diego 24.19%
    Cincinnati 18.55% Houston 28.71% Philadelphia 21.79% San Francisco 35.15%
    Cleveland 18.68% Huntsville 16.02% Phoenix 16.79% Seattle 21.81%
    Columbus 17.16% Indianapolis 14.68% Pittsburgh 16.37% Washington D.C. 24.22%
    Dallas 20.67% Los Angeles 27.16% Portland 20.35% Rest of U.S. 14.16%
    As an example of the overall calculation, a GS employee, Grade GS-12, Step 10 in Dallas would receive a base salary of $78,355 plus a locality pay adjustment of 20.67 percent (an additional $16,196) for a total salary of $94,551. By comparison, a similar employee in San Antonio (which is not one of the 31 designated areas for an increased adjustment) would receive only the standard "Rest of U.S." 14.16 percent increase ($11,095) over the same base salary, for a total salary of $89,450.
    However, FEPCA places a cap on the total salary of highly-paid employees (mainly those at the higher GS-15 Grade steps) – the total base pay plus locality adjustment cannot exceed the salary for Level IV of the Executive Schedule.
    The locality pay adjustment is counted as part of the "high-3" salary in calculating Federal Employees Retirement System (FERS) and Civil Service Retirement System (CSRS) annuities, as well as the baseline for individuals having a percentage of salary deducted for deposit into the Thrift Savings Plan.
    greys, that makes sense about your son. I knew someone who had worked at a bakery and made less than minimum wage at that age too. It was a long time ago when I was working my first real job, but it was also, strangely enough, a union job so that's probably how I got paid minimum wage.
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    That was really mean of the pastor -- petty and small-minded. I worked as a waitress for years while in school and waiting for better jobs, and there are some real assholes out there. Still, I wouldn't have posted the receipt online where either one of us could be identified.

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    I had to look this min wage info up too. Of course like everything here in the US, it varies from state to state. Some states have a higher min wage than the fed min, and other varying things.

    My state seems to have fewer minimum wage exceptions than the federal law allows, which makes sense now, because the only people I've ever heard of getting less than are people working off the books.
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    It does vary state to state. In mine, tipped workers must make a minimum of 5.35 and hour. When the hourly wage is combined with tips, it must equal minimum wage or the employer has to make up the difference. Essentially, waiters and waitresses make minimum wage, one way or another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gas_chick View Post
    Oh and shouldn't a Pastor give Jeebus 100%?
    Exactly what I was thinking.

    People need to be careful what they post online. Although in this case it doesn't look like you could see credit card info from the picture. I'm sure this girl will get hired somewhere quick though. Karma works both ways.



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    Quote Originally Posted by SHELLEE View Post
    I think that it's safe to say, that you were not making him help with the mortgage though.

    Well no, I was just saying some people do make less than federal minimums. When he told me how much he was going to be making, I looked up the rules to double-check because I had no idea there were exceptions other than tipped jobs.
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    I have found that most retailers will throw an employee under the bus in order to avoid a customer complaint or to compensate a customer for something they took the wrong way, or something really fucking stupid that they've done while in the retail establishment/restaurant. DSW will in a heartbeat. It doesn't take much.
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    Also, regarding the people with disabilities: that also applies to many DD people who live in group homes, like the ones I worked with. They go to 'work', but depending on their abilities it is often not much more than a daycare at times. Some would actually go to special areas in some small manufacturing plants, etc. and do very simple assembly work, at their own rate, and they got paid according to how much they got done. Sometimes if they did nothing, they got no paycheck. But even the ones who worked six hours a day five days a week never made more than $200.00 a week. But that money was in addition to their SSDI money, and they usually needed it.

    If they were not offered these sub minimum wage jobs, they would not have any paying job at all as they simply could not compete in the regular work force. Also they did not have to work-it was an option for them. I worked with one who stuffed brochures for a county tourism board as well.

    And the minister bitch is still a bitch.

    -Her initial nasty comment and no tip(being a bitch)
    -trying to have everyone associated with the Reddit revelations fired-successfully getting the waitress who she completely stiffed fired(being a bitch)
    -Continuing with the 'woe is me I am being so harassed now/I am the victim here shit/not admitting to her initial wrong and further overreaction'(still being a bitch).
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    Do pastors even pay the 10% tithe? All the churches I've been to, the congregation's 10% tithes go towards paying the salaries of the paid employees (pastors, etc..) and maintenance of the building/utilities etc.. Sometimes they pay for other things, but usually if this was required (ie. missions or some specific thing) an additional request for that was made to the congregation (so it was separate to the 10% tithe obligation).

    I live in Australia though, is it different in the States?

    I guess it's not really here nor there, but does she, as a pastor, pay a 10% tithe? If so, to whom?

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    i manage a restaurant, and parties of 8 and up are charged a gratuity (this pastor broad had a party of 10). Big parties are a pain in the ass for the waiter.
    Apparently the pastor was trying to avoid the gratuity by splitting the check, but the gratuity is still passed on to each check even after splitting (thanks to Point Of Service computer systems)

    also in some places Waitstaff makes below minimum wage because they get tips. (not at the place i work tho)

    and,.. i read that the picture taker was not the waitress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msdeb View Post
    i manage a restaurant, and parties of 8 and up are charged a gratuity (this pastor broad had a party of 10). Big parties are a pain in the ass for the waiter.
    Apparently the pastor was trying to avoid the gratuity by splitting the check, but the gratuity is still passed on to each check even after splitting (thanks to Point Of Service computer systems)

    also in some places Waitstaff makes below minimum wage because they get tips. (not at the place i work tho)

    and,.. i read that the picture taker was not the waitress.

    I read the same. The pastor tried to get around the 18% tip by asking to seperate all the checks, even though she paid for them all....meaning she gave the server the extra headache of splitting everything up and then gave the same waitress one credit card to pay for all the seperate bills...all in an effort to get out of tipping her. Bitch. Also, the person who posted the photo was not the server for the party...she saw the receipt, took a pic of it, and posted it, and it was not her table. Still, she got fired cause the pastor complained....when she should have been calling to apologize to the server instead. Bitch.

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