Man bitch slaps woman's toddler for crying - Page 5

MrsDark · September 5th, 2009, 10:36 AM

I'm a mom, and there's no way I'd stand there and do nothing while letting my kid scream his head off in a public place. We'd get the fuck out of there (even if it meant I had to do whatever I needed to do later...as much as it would piss me off) if I couldn't calm his ass down because I have MANNERS. You don't make other people put up with your shit in a public place like that. This is the price you pay for having kids and raising them correctly. And removing the kid from the place entirely makes a much bigger impression on them (i.e this behavior is NOT appropriate/not appropriate in a public place) than ignoring their little asses and letting them go batshit. Other people should not have to suffer your brats and kids need to learn early on that they don't get a special pass for being too young to control themselves.

buttmunch · September 6th, 2009, 06:07 AM

Yeah, you're right. I wouldn't let my kid scream but then again younger heathen went through a phase where he would have absolute fucking meltdowns in incredibly public places and if I tried to move him (or his pram) he would throw himself about to the point that I actually couldn't move him. It was tough but it ended with me not taking him anywhere for awhile...but it took me a bit to get to that point. People were overall understanding, although there were some assholes who acted like I was just sitting there, unconcerned, when he pulled his eppies. it's a tough one but I can say that if anyone layed a finger on the heathens I would kick their arse from one end of the shop to the other. Go ahead and tell me I suck as a parent, the kid sucks, everyone sucks, that's fine. But DO NOT lay a finger on my heathen. This guy was obviously a dickhead with issues. I can't even imagine this happening.

MrsDark · September 6th, 2009, 11:36 AM

Excuse me for a sec, but.... You couldn't move a child small enough to be in a pram? WTF?

twitchy2.0 · September 6th, 2009, 11:58 AM

Try picking one up when they go limp!

MrsDark · September 6th, 2009, 12:05 PM

Been there, done that. Arm between the legs, football hold folks. I'll be damned if I'm letting a teeny little fucker one 5th-6th my weight (or much less) be unmovable, even if I have to put a chokehold on his ass. There has yet to be a kid I couldn't get hold of if I didn't want to.

buttmunch · September 6th, 2009, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MrsDark

Excuse me for a sec, but.... You couldn't move a child small enough to be in a pram? WTF?

He would literally throw himself out of it the second I moved the bloody thing. It was an absolute nightmare, hence the not going anywhere with him till that little phase passed.

Grimmlok · September 6th, 2009, 06:26 PM

did you try keeping him in by tying his ass up with belts or electrical cord?

twitchy2.0 · September 6th, 2009, 06:42 PM

Houdini's mom tried that.

A*O · September 6th, 2009, 07:11 PM

Go into any random supermarket or big store and you will see dozens of Grumpy Old Men barging into queues, shouting at staff, growling at kiddies, muttering about the injustice of having to do shopping when they could be at home watching TV.

I had my share of toddler tantrums at the supermarket and suffered the glares and tut-tutting of older people who clearly never had kids or forgot what it's like. Now I find myself glaring and tutting so it's all good.

LynnieD · September 6th, 2009, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MrsDark

I'm a mom, and there's no way I'd stand there and do nothing while letting my kid scream his head off in a public place. We'd get the fuck out of there (even if it meant I had to do whatever I needed to do later...as much as it would piss me off) if I couldn't calm his ass down because I have MANNERS. You don't make other people put up with your shit in a public place like that. This is the price you pay for having kids and raising them correctly. And removing the kid from the place entirely makes a much bigger impression on them (i.e this behavior is NOT appropriate/not appropriate in a public place) than ignoring their little asses and letting them go batshit. Other people should not have to suffer your brats and kids need to learn early on that they don't get a special pass for being too young to control themselves.

THANK YOU. I couldn't agree more and I am a Mom of 2.

MrsDark · September 6th, 2009, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by buttmunch

He would literally throw himself out of it the second I moved the bloody thing. It was an absolute nightmare, hence the not going anywhere with him till that little phase passed.

I had one of those giant 4 in 1 strollers (with the detachable infant car seat for the first year) and it had straps that went over the shoulders and met up with another that went between the legs and clicked shut. That kid wasn't going anywhere. Any stroller where the kid can't be secured into it should be thrown right into the garbage (or donated to someone else with a newborn) once a baby gets old enough to roll over.

You don't even have to have one of those ridiculous 4 in 1 jobs like I had. You can buy a cheapie push stroller constructed where you can strap the kid in. A kid throwing himself out of a buggy is just plain ridiculous. And unsafe.

A*O · September 6th, 2009, 10:47 PM

But you can't secure your precious cargo in a buggy because it will crush his self esteeeeeeeeeeem if he can't express himself by being a little shit.

buttmunch · September 7th, 2009, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Grimmlok

did you try keeping him in by tying his ass up with belts or electrical cord?

He chewed through them.

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Originally Posted by MrsDark

I had one of those giant 4 in 1 strollers (with the detachable infant car seat for the first year) and it had straps that went over the shoulders and met up with another that went between the legs and clicked shut. That kid wasn't going anywhere. Any stroller where the kid can't be secured into it should be thrown right into the garbage (or donated to someone else with a newborn) once a baby gets old enough to roll over.

You don't even have to have one of those ridiculous 4 in 1 jobs like I had. You can buy a cheapie push stroller constructed where you can strap the kid in. A kid throwing himself out of a buggy is just plain ridiculous. And unsafe.

Wish you had been with me when I went stroller shopping.

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But you can't secure your precious cargo in a buggy because it will crush his self esteeeeeeeeeeem if he can't express himself by being a little shit.

Well, duh!!!

MrsDark · September 7th, 2009, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by A*O

But you can't secure your precious cargo in a buggy because it will crush his self esteeeeeeeeeeem if he can't express himself by being a little shit.

LOL

But seriously, I guess I'm a crappy parent who cares about physical safety first.

I'm sorry butt, I know you love the kiddies and they can do no wrong, but being paralyzed and "unable to move" by something small enough that it still sits in its own shit without your assistance is ridiculous. That's when you grab his ass out of that pram and carry him out if you have to. You are the boss. Not the babyee/chyyld. Put the smack down early and you won't have to deal with nearly as much shit later on. You'll actually have one well behaved enough that you can take it places before it's school age. And even have people...who by and large now are used to kids acting like little out of control assholes...be amazed and comment on how well behaved yours is. (Like what was once expected of kids)

People finding my small kid adorable instead of an asshole probably did more for his self-esteem than being able to wriggle around and throw a fit in a stroller (or pram) showing the world how he had his mommy under control.

buttmunch · September 7th, 2009, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MrsDark

LOL

But seriously, I guess I'm a crappy parent who cares about physical safety first.

I'm sorry butt, I know you love the kiddies and they can do no wrong, but being paralyzed and "unable to move" by something small enough that it still sits in its own shit without your assistance is ridiculous. That's when you grab his ass out of that pram and carry him out if you have to. You are the boss. Not the babyee/chyyld. Put the smack down early and you won't have to deal with nearly as much shit later on. You'll actually have one well behaved enough that you can take it places before it's school age. And even have people...who by and large now are used to kids acting like little out of control assholes...be amazed and comment on how well behaved yours is. (Like what was once expected of kids)

People finding my small kid adorable instead of an asshole probably did more for his self-esteem than being able to wriggle around and throw a fit in a stroller (or pram) showing the world how he had his mommy under control.

Yeah, I love the heathens but am under no illusions that they can do no wrong. What I was describing was a small phase the younger one went through. Where I lived at the time didn't sell prams with strappy gear, or if they did I didn't find them. I was also living far from home in a foreign country and didn't realll have anyone to turn to for advice on how to deal with this. It being Sweden they had the attitude of just 'ride it out'. It was a bad phase but it ended fairly quickly, mainly because the kid wanted to go out and I told him in no uncertain terms that he wouldn't be going anywhere if he didn't behave himself. He got the message. And then we started going out again. Basically we now take them anywhere and everywhere and they know the right and wrong way to behave and know if they behave badly they're out of there, in trouble and will lose out in the end.

Just to reiterate, I don't think the heathens are angels and I'm pretty sure I did some dumb stuff throughout the years but the bottom line is that they're good heathens, they're well behaved and they know who's boss. It's never easy and none of us are perfect parents but we learn and so do the heathens. I wish we all had the magical solutions to any and all problems that arise with heathens but I don't think anyone does because it's not a one size fits all situation. Just having two heathens tellsme that: what works with one doesn't necessarily work or get the same reaction from teh other. At the end of the day I want them to be well adjusted, respectful heathens who don't think the world owes them a big fucking favour and I think we've (so far) done a pretty good job of instilling that.

But I like a lot of your advice, even if I don't always agree with it so keep it coming. You're a woman of sense.