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    A Chinese ship heard a pulse signal which could be the black box....

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    With all the spy satellite technology out there, no one will ever convince me that some country hasn't known all along where the plane is or where it went down.
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    Chinese ship looking for missing Malaysia Airlines plane detects black box 'pulse signal' in southern Indian Ocean | Mail Online

    BREAKING NEWS: Chinese ship looking for missing Malaysia Airlines plane detects black box 'pulse signal' in southern Indian Ocean


    • Chinese ship Haixun 01 is said to have picked up the signal
    • The frequency of 37.5Hz per second is understood to be the same as that emitted by flight recorders
    • MH370 went missing on March 8 travelling from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing
    • The Australian government agency coordinating the search would not immediately comment on the discovery
    • The deepest part of the search zone is 5,800 metres or 19,000 feet
    • Teams are scouring an area that measures 84,000 square miles

    By Lizzie Parry and Richard Shears
    Published: 07:24 EST, 5 April 2014 | Updated: 09:35 EST, 5 April 2014

    A Chinese ship that is part of the multinational search effort looking for the missing Malaysia Airlines plane has detected a 'pulse signal' in southern Indian Ocean waters, it has emerged.

    China's official news agency said a black box detector deployed by the vessel, Haixun 01, picked up a signal today.

    The ship said that the signal it picked up has a frequency of 37.5kHz per second, which is the type that the aircraft's black box would send out.

    It could provide a dramatic breakthrough in the hunt for the Boeing 777, which vanished on March 8 while travelling from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing with 239 people on board.

    A Chinese ship is said to have detected a 'pulse signal' in the southern Indian Ocean today

    However, there is no immediate evidence that the signal is linked to the missing jet.

    Dozens of ships and aircraft from several nations are involved in the search in the Indian Ocean, some 1,500 miles west of Perth, Western Australia.

    The reported signal gives the first ray of hope that a breakthrough has been achieved in the search after numerous heartbreaking discoveries of nothing but rubbish floating on the ocean, rather than debris from the aircraft.

    The report said it was not established whether that the signal was related to the missing jet.

    The Australian government agency co-ordinating the search would not immediately comment on the report.

    Malaysia vowed today that it would not give up on trying to find the missing jetliner and announced details of a multinational investigation team to solve the aviation mystery, as the search for the plane entered its fifth week.

    Military and civilian planes, ships with deep-sea searching equipment and a British nuclear submarine scoured a remote patch of the southern Indian Ocean off Australia's west coast.

    The hunt for debris and the 'black box' recorders that hold vital information about Malaysia Airlines Flight 370's last hours has become increasingly urgent.

    After weeks of fruitless looking, officials face the daunting prospect that sound-emitting beacons in the flight and voice recorders will soon fall silent as their batteries die after sounding electronic 'pings' for a month.

    The potential discovery came as Malaysia vowed it would not give up on trying to find the missing jetliner and announced details of a multinational investigation team to solve the aviation mystery, as the search for the plane entered its fifth week


    Hishammuddin Hussein, (right) Malaysia's defense minister and acting transport minister, told reporters in Kuala Lumpur that the cost of mounting the search was immaterial compared to providing solace for the families of those on board by establishing what happened

    Hishammuddin Hussein, Malaysia's defense minister and acting transport minister, told reporters in Kuala Lumpur that the cost of mounting the search was immaterial compared to providing solace for the families of those on board by establishing what happened.

    'I can only speak for Malaysia, and Malaysia will not stop looking for MH370,' Hishammuddin said.

    The Boeing 777 disappeared March 8 while en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing with 239 people aboard. So far, no trace of the jet has been found.

    At the media briefing, Hishammuddin announced that an independent investigator would be appointed and three main areas of inquiry would be pursued.

    One team will look at airworthiness, including maintenance, structures and systems; another will examine operations, such as flight recorders and meteorology; and a third will consider medical and human factors.

    The overall investigation team will include officials and experts from Australia — which as the nearest country to the search zone is currently heading the hunt, with other nations' help — as well as China, the United States, Britain and France, Hishammuddin said.
    A multinational team is desperately trying to find debris floating in the water or faint sound signals from the recorders that could lead them to the missing plane and unravel the mystery of its fate.

    Finding floating wreckage is key to narrowing the search area, as officials can then use data on currents to backtrack to where the plane hit the water, and where the flight recorders may be.

    Teams are searching for two black boxes like this one which investigators hope will reveal what happened on board the doomed flight

    Beacons in the black boxes emit 'pings' so they can be more easily found, but the batteries only last about a month.

    Officials have said the hunt for the wreckage is among the hardest ever undertaken, and will get much harder still if the beacons fall silent before they are found.

    'Where we're at right now, four weeks since this plane disappeared, we're much, much closer,' said aviation expert Geoffrey Thomas, the editor-in-chief of AirlineRatings.com.

    '"But, frustratingly, we're still miles away from finding it. We need to find some piece of debris on the water; we need to pick up the ping.'

    If it doesn't happen, the only hope for finding the plane may be a full survey of the Indian Ocean floor, an operation that would take years and an enormous international operation.

    Hishammuddin said there were no more new satellite images or data that can provide new leads for searchers. The focus now is fully on the ocean search, he said.

    Two ships, the Australian navy's Ocean Shield and the British HMS Echo, carrying sophisticated equipment that can hear the recorders' pings, returned on Saturday to an area investigators hope is close to where the plane went down.

    They concede the area they have identified is a best guess.

    Up to 13 military and civilian planes and nine other ships took part in the search, the Australian agency coordinating the search said.

    U.S. Navy Captain Mark Matthews with the pinger locator which has now reached the remote search area in the Indian Ocean where investigators hope it will pick up a signal from MH370's black boxes

    Clinging to hope: A underwater pinger locator (above) which is capable of detecting signals from MH370's black boxes has reached the search zone in the Indian Ocean on board the Australian navy ship Ocean Shield


    A Royal New Zealand Air Force crew member looks out for debris from the Malaysia Airlines plane

    Because the U.S. Navy's pinger locator can pick up signals to a depth of 6,100 meters (20,000 feet), it should be able to hear the plane's data recorders even if they are in the deepest part of the search zone — about 5,800 meters (19,000 feet).

    But that's only if the locator gets within range of the black boxes — a tough task, given the size of the search area and the fact that the pinger locator must be dragged slowly through the water at just one to five knots (1 to 6mph).

    Australian Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston, head of the joint agency coordinating the operation, acknowledged the search area was essentially a best guess, and noted the time when the plane's locator beacons would shut down was 'getting pretty close'.

    The overall search area is a 217,000-square-kilometer (84,000-square-mile) zone in the southern Indian Ocean, about 1,700 kilometers (1,100 miles) northwest of the western Australian city of Perth.


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2597630/Chinese-ship-looking-missing-Malaysia-Airlines-plane-detects-black-box-pulse-signal-southern-Indian-Ocean.html

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    I am still strongly inclined to think that the plane crashed on its own, but if this is the trajectory of the plane (picture below), which is different than the trajectories shown on previous maps / diagrams, then I can entertain the notion that the plane was shot down by Australia or one of its close allies - it looks like the plane was going in the direction of Australia and was within 1000 miles, but I guess I am being naive because I would have been all, "it was a ghost plane and f*** yeah we shot it down!" Well not that cavalierly, but I still would have copped to it.

    I've been giving the Malaysians the side-eye all this time, but if this was the trajectory and it got that close to Australia, even though I don't think that it is a highly populated area, then I am adding the Aussies to my list of people who know more than they are telling.

    As I stated before, I think that more is known than what has been acknowledged, but at the end of the day to me it makes no sense to shoot it down if it was over the open sea or an unpopulated area, and if it was shot down over or near a populated area, there is no way that the debris field could have been contained in such a way that more than a few civilians would not come across some of the debris.

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    Cautiously optimistic. The way they've been dubbing "plane debris" every piece of junk they spot I am just not sure. It might just be some whale, or something.
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    Somehow I thought black boxes would be black. Orange is the new black?

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    I feel like Whitney Houston....I need the receipts before I believe another word!!

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    I can entertain the notion that the plane was shot down by Australia or one of its close allies
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    Last edited by dougie; April 5th, 2014 at 12:22 PM. Reason: swapped gifs

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    Quote Originally Posted by twitchy2.0 View Post
    I'm voting for accident combined with a crapload of misinformation.
    I still like this theory^

    Something went wrong. Either that or aliens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McJag View Post
    And remember the pilots could see everyone slumped over and air masks dangling? They knew they were already dead. Let a plane full of dead people wipe out a business full of live people?No way. Like if they were headed to your house.
    Exactly how I feel also. Including if I were the one on the plane. The military probably doesn't trust that the public could handle that information.
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    I also think Flight 93 was shot down and the whole Pentagon crash is a scam. But that's a whole different conspiracy theory.
    Considering they sent out a kamikaze mission to take down 93, we know there were no reservations about taking it down.

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    Oh surprise, a Chinese ship which hasn't been reported as even being on the case has miraculously "found" something way outside the search area and in the Nick of time before the black box (yes, they are orange) pinger runs out of juice. Nothing confirmed, just "reports".
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