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    I don't believe there is a cover up. The story about the Rolls Royce engine pings is untrue according to Rolls Royce. But there were radar pings for a few hours after the last contact. Last I heard they are back to believing the plane did turn back and kept flying. They had a guy on the news tonight who showed how easy it is to disengage the tracking and that there is nothing that could accidentally disengage the tracking and then cause the plane to turn back. I believe someone took over the plane or one of the crew cracked.
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    I'm surprised that Obama hasn't been blamed yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sluce View Post
    I don't believe there is a cover up. The story about the Rolls Royce engine pings is untrue according to Rolls Royce. .
    Is nobody verifying their sources? That really makes me angry. It's one thing for us to speculate, but for the Wall Street Journal to just take a story and run with it is not acceptable.

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    Another day, another theory: the plane has landed in the Andaman Islands.

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    That's one of the reasons it's unlikely. Plus, it's virtually unheard of that a military plane would fire on a civilian aircraft without warning outside of a war zone.

    I just buy it because the Malaysian government have been very secretive about this. They've already warned the Thai navy out of the Gulf of Thailand and the South China Sea which is where the plane has likely gone down.
    The Itavia Flight 870 got shot down by the military in 1980 and I don't think there was any warning...

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    I'm starting to lean towards hijack or pilot action for a few reasons...if the plane veered sharply off course (potentially because of some cataclysmic on board event), wouldn't it have flown in circles? How did it then straighten out in some other direction. By the same token, the transponder has so many redundancies (including back up battery) that it must have been manually turned off. That leaves the open question about passenger phone calls or texts, I fly a lot (and not over oceans between multiple countries) and when I have forgotten to turn off my phone I don't usually have any service unless I pay to connect to the on board wifi. Even still, it would seem that the flight attendants would have some ability to notify the pilots if hijackers incapacitated the cabin before the cockpit. I don't know, there's usually some theory that ties it all together, but this whole thing is a little too hollywood movie and there are just leaps of logic that I can't make.
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    Another day, another theory. I believe we can't make sense of this because we aren't being given all the facts for some reason. So that triggers even more theories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SHELLEE View Post
    I'm surprised that Obama hasn't been blamed yet.
    Hannity: Missing Malaysian Jet Obama's Fault

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flygirl View Post
    Is nobody verifying their sources? That really makes me angry. It's one thing for us to speculate, but for the Wall Street Journal to just take a story and run with it is not acceptable.
    The WSJ is just a Murdoch rag now.
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    Thanks,WCG. I didn't realize that.

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    Ha! Finally caught up on this thread and then saw this:

    ABC 7 Chicago
    BREAKING NEWS: KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia (AP) - Malaysian official says investigators conclude missing jet was hijacked, steered off-course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellatheball View Post
    Ha! Finally caught up on this thread and then saw this:

    ABC 7 Chicago
    BREAKING NEWS: KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia (AP) - Malaysian official says investigators conclude missing jet was hijacked, steered off-course.
    Oh wow. Going to the ABC page.

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    KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia -- A Malaysian government official says investigators have concluded that one of the pilots or someone else with flying experience hijacked the missing Malaysia Airlines jet.
    The official, who is involved in the investigation, says no motive has been established, and it is not yet clear where the plane was taken. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to brief the media.
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    The official said that hijacking was no longer a theory. "It is conclusive."
    The Boeing 777's communication with the ground was severed under one hour into a flight March 8 from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing. Malaysian officials have said radar data suggest it may have turned back and crossed back over the Malaysian peninsula westward, after setting out toward the Chinese capital.
    http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?se...ews&id=9466141

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    Yeah but that's Malaysian officials saying; who's corroborating that independently?

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    Does anyone know if it is possible to turn off the oxygen in the cabin and prevent the oxygen masks from popping down? Not sure how that works. Does the person piloting the plane have a separate system for getting oxygen?

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    I was really hoping a hijacking wasn't behind this. The early theory of rapid decompression seemed like the most hopeful idea. I know I read that Malaysian authorities spotted the plane on their radar at 45, 000 feet (which is apparently above the recommended altitude for aircraft) and then saw it quickly plummet down to 23, 000. From what I've read at 45, 000 feet, if there was a sudden drop in pressure, the pilot's TUC (time of useful consciousness) would be less than ten seconds. Not sure how long it would take to render everyone fully unconscious, but I imagine it'd be pretty quick. I was hoping it was instantaneous and they felt relatively little fear. A hijacking is just more tragedy on top of everything. Those poor people.

    What worries me now is that they may never find the wreckage or locate the voice recording systems. Without any evidence, it seems inevitable that assumptions will be made about the passengers who were flying on stolen passports. If there was a hijacking, we can't know for sure who was responsible and I really hope the families of those passengers don't have to face the wrath of an entire world without hard proof.


    ETA: I think it's wise to take everything with a grain of salt at this point. I mentioned a report from Malaysian officials, but I don't assume it translates into fact. If and until they find the plane, I don't think we can ever know what happened.
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